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UPDATED: Kosher Info from Beth Din in Cape Town (last updated Dec. 2020) http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp

Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
Cab -
Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1400 on: November 04, 2018, 01:32:45 PM »
Any feedback on the Protea Sea Point hotel? Thinking of doing the stay 5 for 4 nights option or a 7 day cert. Think @Yehoshua stayed there?
The hotel is above avg, nothing crazy. The staff is very good and accommodating for shabbos. You can't get a better location in sea point if you want to be near the shuls and restaurants.

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« Reply #1401 on: November 04, 2018, 07:51:36 PM »
Thanks, is the Protea North Wharf too far from the shuls/restaurants for shabbat? Don't even think it's the best cash/points value for the Sea Point but whatever.

Do you guys think 1.5 hours layover time is enough for the CPT-JNB flight before continuing JNB-CPT? Should I play it safe and take an earlier flight from CPT?

Thanks for all the help, plans are slowly falling into place and will B'H post a TR eventually!
That's too far. Just stay in Sea Point.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1402 on: November 04, 2018, 07:57:09 PM »
I stayed at a great Airbnb with daily housekeeping in Sea point
Let me know if you're interested and I can look it up
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« Reply #1403 on: November 04, 2018, 10:02:24 PM »
I stayed at a great Airbnb with daily housekeeping in Sea point
Let me know if you're interested and I can look it up
Did it have heating? I couldn't find any that did, though they all had AC.

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« Reply #1404 on: November 04, 2018, 10:11:47 PM »
Did it have heating? I couldn't find any that did, though they all had AC.
I'm not sure, I was there in July
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1405 on: November 04, 2018, 10:18:05 PM »
Thanks, I guess I'll just stick with the Protea Sea Point. And I want a layover greater than 1.5 hours to catch the JNB-JFK flight?

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« Reply #1406 on: November 04, 2018, 10:52:10 PM »
Thanks, I guess I'll just stick with the Protea Sea Point. And I want a layover greater than 1.5 hours to catch the JNB-JFK flight?
Probably safer. You can get a bite to eat from a Joburg restaurant if the alternative flight gets you onto JNB too early.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1407 on: November 11, 2018, 08:15:16 AM »
Would it make sense to go to south africa but skip anything safari related, or that’s an integral part of going there?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1408 on: November 11, 2018, 08:29:59 AM »
Would it make sense to go to south africa but skip anything safari related, or that’s an integral part of going there?

We did that and had a great time. You can always do Safari on another trip and you can always do Safari in another (African) country too.

We did Cape Town / Boulder Beach, Johannesburg / Soweto and Victoria falls over the 6 days that we had there.

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« Reply #1409 on: November 11, 2018, 08:31:12 AM »
We did that and had a great time. You can always do Safari on another trip and you can always do Safari in another (African) country too.

We did Cape Town / Boulder Beach, Johannesburg / Soweto and Victoria falls over the 6 days that we had there.
Is it worth travelling there from israel just for that?

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« Reply #1410 on: November 11, 2018, 08:32:31 AM »
Is it worth travelling there from israel just for that?

We travelled there from New York through Abu Dhabi for that. A 30 hour journey each way in economy class. Don’t think I would do that again in economy at this stage. It was on the Etihad mistake fare.

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« Reply #1411 on: November 11, 2018, 08:33:49 AM »
We travelled there from New York through Abu Dhabi for that. A 30 hour journey each way in economy class. Don’t think I would do that again in economy at this stage. It was on the Etihad mistake fare.
Pretty crazy. I guess it’s really nice then.... thanks!

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1412 on: November 11, 2018, 11:23:11 AM »
There's lots to do in two weeks without safaris, but it's a shame, especially if it's unlikely you'll get another chance to do it. May I ask why you are excluding them?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1413 on: November 11, 2018, 11:40:48 AM »
Mainly cause it was never on mine or wife's list of interests...

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« Reply #1414 on: November 11, 2018, 12:40:43 PM »
There's lots to do in two weeks without safaris, but it's a shame, especially if it's unlikely you'll get another chance to do it. May I ask why you are excluding them?

Yup with extra 2-3 days I would have opted to do KNP as well. Didn’t have the time and had to choose.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1415 on: November 14, 2018, 09:55:08 PM »
So I’ll be flying into JNB on a Monday morning and catching a connecting flight to VFA. I was planning on spending a half day to a full day at the falls and then ideally 3 full days doing safari in either Kruger or Chobe. An issue I’m running into is that flights to CPT on Friday from VFA are almost non existent or the non stop is very expensive. Any ideas or suggestions on what I can do?

I’m also interested in any guidance on how to book the safari part with a tour company. Did you all just google it or any recommendations?

Thank you!

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1416 on: December 03, 2018, 01:32:02 PM »
For those of you looking to go to Pilanesberg because of Malaria, I wanted to share where I stayed a month ago as I did not see any mentions of it here.
It is called Tshukudu Bush Lodge (https://www.legacyhotels.co.za/hotels/tshukudu-bush-lodge), not to confuse with Tshukudu Game Lodge.
They offer a very exclusive and incredible experience. There are 10 rooms and we were 7 guests on the property (max. is 20). It is not cheap, but it is worth every penny. It is also the only lodge inside Pilanesberg so they are not limited to opening times.
There are 2 4-hour game drives per day and they will go as far as making your favorite cocktail in the middle of the drive.
Everything is inclusive and they were very helpful with kosher food (I had to bring everything).
Feel free to send me a message if you'd like their brochure or daily schedule.
I have no relations to them but I'm planning on going back!

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1417 on: December 03, 2018, 05:54:06 PM »
I'm speaking with a safari planner and he's quoting me ~$500 day/per person for Thornybush Park in Kruger. Seems very pricey to me, I was expecting to pay somewhere in the ~$300 range per day but he says going to cheap would result in a worse experience with the game viewing. Do I need to adjust expectations? We wouldn't even be eating the food they provide and he says they can't reduce the price for that.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1418 on: December 03, 2018, 09:02:14 PM »


I'm speaking with a safari planner and he's quoting me ~$500 day/per person for Thornybush Park in Kruger. Seems very pricey to me, I was expecting to pay somewhere in the ~$300 range per day but he says going to cheap would result in a worse experience with the game viewing. Do I need to adjust expectations? We wouldn't even be eating the food they provide and he says they can't reduce the price for that.

Seems about right. You can probably get a little less luxury in the $400 per day/per person range with the game viewing quality not being decreased. Pricing obviously depends on the season as well.

Either way, Thornybush does not seem to be connected to Kruger. I'd recommend a reserve that is.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1419 on: December 04, 2018, 01:13:43 PM »

Seems about right. You can probably get a little less luxury in the $400 per day/per person range with the game viewing quality not being decreased. Pricing obviously depends on the season as well.

Either way, Thornybush does not seem to be connected to Kruger. I'd recommend a reserve that is.

I'm going in January, don't know if that's the peak season or not. We can forgo the luxury aspect a bit if it doesn't compromise the game viewing quality.

Can you explain the difference with Thornybush? I thought it's inside Kruger?