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UPDATED: Kosher Info from Beth Din in Cape Town (last updated Dec. 2020) http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp

Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
Cab -
Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659

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Author Topic: Southern Africa (SA/Zim/Zam/Botswana/Namibia) Master Thread  (Read 467349 times)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1560 on: December 25, 2019, 08:52:30 AM »


Thoughts on this outline?


Su CLE-EWR 1:14pm-2:58pm
5:32 connection in Newark
Su EWR-CPT 8:30pm-5pm+1
6 nights in Cape Town
Su CPT-VFA 830am-1115am
1 night in Vic Falls
Mo LVI-MQP 205pm-345pm
3 nights in the Kruger
Th MQP-JNB 8:25am-9:15am
8 hours in Joburg, Gelatisimo+Nandos (anything else?)
Th JNB-CPT 5:05pm-7:10pm
1:40 connection in Cape Town
Th CPT-EWR 8:50pm-5:45am+1
3:20 connection in Newark
Fr EWR-CLE 905am-1045am
Looks great. Just note that if you plan on staying at a private reserve, you'll miss the evening game drive on Monday and morning game drive on Thursday.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1561 on: December 25, 2019, 10:39:10 AM »
Yes this is true. Also as someone mentioned, I know the JNB-JFK biz product isn’t the best but still thing it’s better than going all the way back to CPT to fly to EWR

Looks great. Just note that if you plan on staying at a private reserve, you'll miss the evening game drive on Monday and morning game drive on Thursday.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1562 on: December 25, 2019, 10:53:20 AM »
Looks great. Just note that if you plan on staying at a private reserve, you'll miss the evening game drive on Monday and morning game drive on Thursday.
+1

The Morning drives are usually 6:30am-am and 3/3:30pm-7pm ish

You definitely have to stay at a private game reserve.

There is one that has a kosher kitchen and you can bring in a chef and Mashgiach but I'm not sure the name and it's pretty pricey.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1563 on: December 25, 2019, 12:26:51 PM »
Thoughts on this outline?


Su CLE-EWR 1:14pm-2:58pm
5:32 connection in Newark
Su EWR-CPT 8:30pm-5pm+1
6 nights in Cape Town
Su CPT-VFA 830am-1115am
1 night in Vic Falls
Mo LVI-MQP 205pm-345pm
3 nights in the Kruger
Th MQP-JNB 8:25am-9:15am
8 hours in Joburg, Gelatisimo+Nandos (anything else?)
Th JNB-CPT 5:05pm-7:10pm
1:40 connection in Cape Town
Th CPT-EWR 8:50pm-5:45am+1
3:20 connection in Newark
Fr EWR-CLE 905am-1045am
Shabbos in JNB?
(you'd lose an hour or two in VFA because the direct flights are later )

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1564 on: December 25, 2019, 12:33:52 PM »
Shabbos in JNB?
(you'd lose an hour or two in VFA because the direct flights are later )
Unless he knows people in JNB he wants to spend shabbos with, why?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1565 on: December 25, 2019, 12:42:17 PM »
Unless he knows people in JNB he wants to spend shabbos with, why?
Personal preference i guess, there are more choices
Better Shabbos and Motzei Shabbos "scene" in JNB
not much going on in CPT if not December Holidays
and of course he'd want to meet your fam... 8)
 

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1566 on: December 25, 2019, 12:48:47 PM »
Perfect.

Are you going with kids?


Nope.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1567 on: December 25, 2019, 12:57:22 PM »
Nope.
Awesome. I mean kids are awesome and all, but long safari drives are much tougher with them.

Also, in JNB the lion park is a can't miss with kids, but not sure it's worth the time going all the way out there without kids. You get about 5 minutes in the lion cub enclosure and you can come out with great pictures.

Burgers and Brew is a Boef and Bun knock off, but getting a tray of deliciously succulent ribs for $7 makes you feel almost criminal.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1568 on: December 25, 2019, 01:25:18 PM »
but getting a tray of deliciously succulent ribs for $7 makes you feel almost criminal.
never gets old  8)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1569 on: December 26, 2019, 11:48:52 AM »
+1

There is one that has a kosher kitchen and you can bring in a chef and Mashgiach but I'm not sure the name and it's pretty pricey.

Kings Camp in Timbavati has a Kosher Kitchen and Mashgiach comes from Jburg and stays the whole time. Highly recommend it. The food was insane!
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1570 on: December 26, 2019, 12:58:41 PM »
Can anyone explain this madness to me?

I don't know of any other route in the world with all of the days nonstops bunched up into less than 1 hour.

JNB to Vic Falls:




Vic Falls to JNB:

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1571 on: December 26, 2019, 12:59:36 PM »
Kings Camp in Timbavati has a Kosher Kitchen and Mashgiach comes from Jburg and stays the whole time. Highly recommend it. The food was insane!
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Amazing!!!
Anyone else have safari recommendations?
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1572 on: December 26, 2019, 01:02:13 PM »
Amazing!!!
Anyone else have safari recommendations?


I stayed in matswari game reserve and was overall pretty happy. I thought the villas would be nicer but overall a solid stay. I brought along kosher frozen food from joburg and they were more then happy to heat it up.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1573 on: December 26, 2019, 01:07:20 PM »
Can anyone explain this madness to me?

I don't know of any other route in the world with all of the days nonstops bunched up into less than 1 hour.

JNB to Vic Falls:




Vic Falls to JNB:


I would say it has to do with check-in times for safari, but Vic Falls isn't a safari place. Maybe it has to do with something else in the area? Not sure. Kinda like how British Airways has almost all their JFK-LHR flights within an hour or two every evening, but nothing else the entire day (besides one morning flight).

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1574 on: December 26, 2019, 01:37:03 PM »
Amazing!!!
Anyone else have safari recommendations?

Kapama was amazing, but we had to bring our own food

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1575 on: December 26, 2019, 01:49:49 PM »
Can anyone explain this madness to me?

I don't know of any other route in the world with all of the days nonstops bunched up into less than 1 hour.

JNB to Vic Falls:




Vic Falls to JNB:


Its a pretty small airport they dont want it open all day

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1576 on: December 26, 2019, 01:51:01 PM »
I would say it has to do with check-in times for safari, but Vic Falls isn't a safari place. Maybe it has to do with something else in the area? Not sure. Kinda like how British Airways has almost all their JFK-LHR flights within an hour or two every evening, but nothing else the entire day (besides one morning flight).
That has more to do with noise restrictions for both sides of the pond

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1577 on: December 26, 2019, 01:53:21 PM »
That has more to do with noise restrictions for both sides of the pond
Really? I thought it had to do with the fact that most people would rather arrive in the UK early in the day so they can catch a connecting flight or get to work that day and not "waste" a day flying there.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1578 on: December 26, 2019, 01:57:39 PM »
Its a pretty small airport they dont want it open all day
Why does CPT have options?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1579 on: December 26, 2019, 02:02:29 PM »
The Kenya flight is LVI
The CPT lands at 1115 ...probably around when things start rolling there

On second check, not counting AirZim (does it even exist ??) arrivals start at 950a with the Kenya from NBO
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