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UPDATED: Kosher Info from Beth Din in Cape Town (last updated Dec. 2020) http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp

Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
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Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
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Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659

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« Reply #1620 on: December 27, 2019, 03:47:56 PM »
You should really do this on the day your driving in. If your missing the Safarfi that afternoon anyway you might as well stop here and get to the lodge a little later.

https://www.elephantwhispers.co.za/
Won't make it there on time for 16:00
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« Reply #1621 on: December 27, 2019, 03:49:07 PM »
Now that i remember, this was the reason why I didn't do Victoria Falls. The way our flights worked out w shabbat it wasn't doable to do it.
Flight times are indeed brutal, but Devil's pool is a bucket lister for me.
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« Reply #1622 on: December 27, 2019, 04:21:37 PM »
Flight times are indeed brutal, but Devil's pool is a bucket lister for me.
I think your missing out by not doing more in vic falls. I'm not sure what's "your style sports" but there is so much to do there of which you cant do anywhere else.

Also I feel like VF is a once in a lifetime thingy where as SA can be done multiple times.
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« Reply #1623 on: December 27, 2019, 04:33:00 PM »
Such as?
The problem is the time constraint. Staying another day means 5 safaris goes to 3.
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« Reply #1624 on: December 28, 2019, 10:14:21 PM »
https://www.victoriafalls-guide.net/victoria-falls-activities.html

Look at it , and decide if anything interests you.

To highlight a few stuff

Chobi safari and river experience is a unique experience that you won't find in other areas in Africa. Its considered the capital of Elephants and has many other fascinating animals such as hippos and giraffes.

Zambia White Water Rafting is not to compare to Colorado rafting.

The local experience is way more fascinating then anywhere in South Africa, it's the real Africa.

You can view, and potentially visit, an intrestesting meeting point. See attached pic.


See some attached pics of my recent trip.

If you do end up staying for 1 night then check out the Vic Falls Hotel during supper time. They have a great local show.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1625 on: December 31, 2019, 07:45:37 PM »
I stayed at the Shiduli lodge in the Karongwe Portfolio. I believe it's a private game reserve but we saw all the Big 5 and had a great time. I picked up kosher food in JNB and brought it with us there and the chef heated it up for us every night.

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« Reply #1626 on: December 31, 2019, 07:45:56 PM »
Can you share some more info about the game drives on the reserve? Some people have noted that game drives on a fenced in reserve can be/feel limited. Did you experience that at all?

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« Reply #1627 on: December 31, 2019, 10:37:36 PM »
Can you share some more info about the game drives on the reserve? Some people have noted that game drives on a fenced in reserve can be/feel limited. Did you experience that at all?

Thanks!
depends on the reserve
some are like glorified zoos some are like being in the wild

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« Reply #1628 on: January 01, 2020, 08:27:31 AM »
depends on the reserve
some are like glorified zoos some are like being in the wild

How about karongwe? any personal experience?

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« Reply #1629 on: January 01, 2020, 09:03:41 AM »
How about karongwe? any personal experience?
Dunno and no
looks to be on the smaller side

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« Reply #1630 on: January 01, 2020, 09:46:51 PM »
How about karongwe? any personal experience?

The reason we did Karongwe was primarily b/c it fit our budget best. It is still an absolutely massive game park and I think we saw the fence maybe once the entire time. The animals have all the space in the world to move around, it is completely open. Not a zoo feeling in the slightest bit. It probably makes it even easier to see all the Big 5 since the rangers know the park so well. We also had a great tracker and guide so I really enjoyed my experience there.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1631 on: January 02, 2020, 10:55:57 PM »
Car rental/car hire from Cape Town/CPT: has anyone been able to waive CDW and/or make use of primary car rental insurance benefit on a Chase card – or secondary car rental insurance on AmEx?

- Budget website for CPT airport says CDW is mandatory and can't be waived.

- AVIS website for CPT airport says CDW is optional.

- Any other suggestions? Worth it to just splurge on car rental company's insurance?

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« Reply #1632 on: January 02, 2020, 10:59:59 PM »
Car rental/car hire from Cape Town/CPT: has anyone been able to waive CDW and/or make use of primary car rental insurance benefit on a Chase card – or secondary car rental insurance on AmEx?

- Budget website for CPT airport says CDW is mandatory and can't be waived.

- AVIS website for CPT airport says CDW is optional.

- Any other suggestions? Worth it to just splurge on car rental company's insurance?
I couldn't get it waived, but it was still very cheap for the rental even with it included.

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« Reply #1633 on: January 02, 2020, 11:30:09 PM »
Car rental/car hire from Cape Town/CPT: has anyone been able to waive CDW and/or make use of primary car rental insurance benefit on a Chase card – or secondary car rental insurance on AmEx?

- Budget website for CPT airport says CDW is mandatory and can't be waived.

- AVIS website for CPT airport says CDW is optional.

- Any other suggestions? Worth it to just splurge on car rental company's insurance?
I rented  hertz and bidvest, non airport locations and got it waived.

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« Reply #1634 on: January 03, 2020, 05:59:26 AM »
Car rental/car hire from Cape Town/CPT: has anyone been able to waive CDW and/or make use of primary car rental insurance benefit on a Chase card – or secondary car rental insurance on AmEx?

- Budget website for CPT airport says CDW is mandatory and can't be waived.

- AVIS website for CPT airport says CDW is optional.

- Any other suggestions? Worth it to just splurge on car rental company's insurance?
Rented from Avis, Hertz and Europcar in 2019 - got CDW waived with Chase from all 3 but they did put a "hold" on my card at Europcar.
However it depends how you book the rental. If you booked with CDW included at time of booking you'll have a hard time revising the rental.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1635 on: January 03, 2020, 09:28:02 AM »
Car rental/car hire from Cape Town/CPT: has anyone been able to waive CDW and/or make use of primary car rental insurance benefit on a Chase card – or secondary car rental insurance on AmEx?

- Budget website for CPT airport says CDW is mandatory and can't be waived.

- AVIS website for CPT airport says CDW is optional.

- Any other suggestions? Worth it to just splurge on car rental company's insurance?

For some reason when I told them I wanted to waive CDW, they interpreted that to mean I wanted zero liability and ended up paying $100 more for the car rental which I was not happy about. Just FYI

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1636 on: January 04, 2020, 09:00:50 PM »
Rented from Avis, Hertz and Europcar in 2019 - got CDW waived with Chase from all 3 but they did put a "hold" on my card at Europcar.
However it depends how you book the rental. If you booked with CDW included at time of booking you'll have a hard time revising the rental.

Thank you @cdlaz ! For AVIS, did you book at the counter, or online? (I have a reservation online in advance of upcoming travel - not prepaid, no option to waive CDW online, but booked through AVIS Preferred and next to CDW reservation says "FREE.")

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« Reply #1637 on: January 04, 2020, 09:53:20 PM »
Whats the best cell phone plan to get for travel to SA? I have an AT&T iphone with a sim card slot. Do ppl add a travel plan to their existing plan or rent a phone/sim just for the trip?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1638 on: January 04, 2020, 10:37:14 PM »
Lol, sounds like MCDs in EZE

@Dan I tried to bring back some Nandos,  but never made it out of our hotel room ;)

But the Kosher Nando's is pretty easy to spot and it's right across from the Chabad compound.

Had a wonderful time with Yossi, Nando's משגיח

On a side note,  Cell service in the Glen Hazel ~ Savoy Estates with both Google Fi (Moto G phone used as wifi a Hotspot) and T-mobile Int'l 2G (as well as Yossi's local mobile phone carrier - is spotty at best and you may have to walk to get LGTE signal to hail an Uber (I used Open signal app to walk in the direction of the strongest tower).




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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1639 on: January 04, 2020, 10:45:38 PM »
Whats the best cell phone plan to get for travel to SA? I have an AT&T iphone with a sim card slot. Do ppl add a travel plan to their existing plan or rent a phone/sim just for the trip?

Thx!

My personal experience last month In ZA used 14.8GB of LTE  (Google Fi and T-mo Int'l) in CPT/Jo'burg/and the Bush. 

Signal is hit or miss even in Urban areas an even moreso in suburban and rural tourist area's without adding load sharing (brown-outs - the cell tower have battery/solar backup - but not developed world consistency or uptime).

Jo'burg (Jewish community) Cell service in the Glen Hazel ~ Savoy Estates with both Google Fi (Moto G phone used as wifi a Hotspot) and T-mobile Int'l 2G~4G (as well as Yossi's local mobile phone carrier - is spotty at times or non-existent and you may have to walk to get LTE signal to hail an Uber (I used Open signal app to walk in the direction of the strongest tower). I also download Offline Google maps for Cape Town region/Jo'burg/and Rustenburg/Pilansburg (Bush area NW of Joburg).