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UPDATED: Kosher Info from Beth Din in Cape Town (last updated Dec. 2020) http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp

Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
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Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2020 on: October 22, 2021, 02:11:19 PM »
i am curious what your shabbat plans are for Cape Town? 
Here is my 2 cents: This itinerary has too many moving parts for a TIA(this is Africa) trip. 
I would skip the paragliding - if I recall its $100 and lasts about 4 minutes.
Take Bonine even if its a clear day. People were puking on the way to Robben Island.
make sure the shark diving is worth doing. I hear that the sharks have left for some reason
Devils Pools are only available during certain periods of the year - not sure when you're going. 
If the weather is poor in cape town, go visit the kosher wineries - which you should be doing anyway. Its beautiful.


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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2021 on: October 25, 2021, 11:48:56 PM »
Option 1:
BLZ-JNB-VFA
JNB layover 11a-11a
- Longer layover
- $70 cheaper
- Gotta wake up at 3am
- Single connection


Option 2:
LLW-HRE-JNB-VFA
JNB layover 4p-11a
- Shorter layover
- $70 more
- Can wake up at 4
- 2 connections

Neither option has award availability. 

Thoughts? Anything to do in JNB other than eat, which would make the longer layover more worthwhile?
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2022 on: October 25, 2021, 11:51:18 PM »
Of course the LLW-APL-NBO-LVI option (which allows me to wake up at 8, gives me four more hours in LVI/VFA, andgives me two new airport codes instead of one, is $300-400 more >:(. Anti-Semites.

EDIT: apparently if I break up the segments they're all available on FB. Might be worth calling tomorrow see if I can get an agent to book it.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2023 on: October 26, 2021, 12:04:34 AM »
Anything to do in JNB other than eat, which would make the longer layover more worthwhile?

There is. Depending on your interests, touring soweto, and such activities.

Lion Park, monkey and elephant sanctuaries - hey aren't safaris, but they do give you a hands on experience with the animals.

Not necessarily things I'd fly in for, but if you are there already, there are things to do.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2024 on: October 26, 2021, 12:07:55 AM »
There is. Depending on your interests, touring soweto, and such activities.

Lion Park, monkey and elephant sanctuaries - hey aren't safaris, but they do give you a hands on experience with the animals.

Not necessarily things I'd fly in for, but if you are there already, there are things to do.

Dunno, sounds like an extra hour of sleep beats all of those ;D

Good ideas though, appreciate it. The elephant sanctuary sounds really cool.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2025 on: October 26, 2021, 10:03:46 AM »
Dunno, sounds like an extra hour of sleep beats all of those ;D

Good ideas though, appreciate it. The elephant sanctuary sounds really cool.
the one past Hartebeespoort? thats like an hour and half from JNB...
throw in a handgliding or microlight by the dam and you have a trip

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2026 on: October 26, 2021, 10:17:32 AM »
Of course the LLW-APL-NBO-LVI option

that's about the most backward (or Fishy) way to get from point A to point B


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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2027 on: October 31, 2021, 05:25:07 PM »
Option 1:
BLZ-JNB-VFA
JNB layover 11a-11a
- Longer layover
- $70 cheaper
- Gotta wake up at 3am
- Single connection

So this is booked.

Any suggestion on where to stay near food? We'd have lunch, dinner, and brbreakfasif places are open early enough.
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« Reply #2028 on: October 31, 2021, 06:30:26 PM »
So this is booked.

Any suggestion on where to stay near food? We'd have lunch, dinner, and brbreakfasif places are open early enough.
for a whole tour or  just 1+

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« Reply #2029 on: October 31, 2021, 06:42:44 PM »
for a whole tour or  just 1+

1+. Private client.
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« Reply #2030 on: October 31, 2021, 07:55:51 PM »
brbreakfasif places

Hope we find a place that sells covfefe.
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« Reply #2031 on: October 31, 2021, 08:25:41 PM »
Hope we find a place that sells covfefe.
Worst case just give him a bottle of wine
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1+. Private client.
check if Genesis is open
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« Reply #2033 on: November 01, 2021, 01:57:27 AM »
No hotels near Jewish area. Check airbnb for Glenhazel. Or do what Dan did and stay in a hotel a short drive away.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2035 on: November 02, 2021, 10:27:32 AM »
So this is booked.

Any suggestion on where to stay near food? We'd have lunch, dinner, and brbreakfasif places are open early enough.
The Thai food at NextDoor and RTG was outstanding and unique.

Ribs, dirty fries, wings, and onion rings are B&B were laughably cheap and delicious.

Breakfast at Hey Barista was great. Fantastic pancakes a la mode for $1.50 and great lattes.

Nandos has delicious cheap fast food, loved the chicken burger and the spicy wedges are legit crack.

Gelatissimo had some of the best ice cream I've ever tried. Affogato drink is also amazing.

Biltong and deli at Moishie's was amazing and crazy cheap! Could have easily brought it back to the US, they just waived us right through without a word. Can also buy breads, pitas, wraps, and other grocery items there.

Pies from Pie Works were fantastic and just stupid, stupid cheap, they double wrapped them and worked out perfectly for reheating in VFA.

Kosher World, Pick N Pay, and Checkers have endless kosher candy and snacks that my kids are in heaven with. The Simba chips and fritos and are amazing, but don't miss Flings!

JNB has nothing to do and is ugly as sin, but man can you eat well there! We ate quarter portions and went to multiple places for some meals just to try them all out as we had the time to kill there anyway and the food is so cheap.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2036 on: November 02, 2021, 11:55:50 AM »
The Thai food at NextDoor and RTG was outstanding and unique.

Ribs, dirty fries, wings, and onion rings are B&B were laughably cheap and delicious.

Breakfast at Hey Barista was great. Fantastic pancakes a la mode for $1.50 and great lattes.

Nandos has delicious cheap fast food, loved the chicken burger and the spicy wedges are legit crack.

Gelatissimo had some of the best ice cream I've ever tried. Affogato drink is also amazing.

Biltong and deli at Moishie's was amazing and crazy cheap! Could have easily brought it back to the US, they just waived us right through without a word. Can also buy breads, pitas, wraps, and other grocery items there.

Pies from Pie Works were fantastic and just stupid, stupid cheap, they double wrapped them and worked out perfectly for reheating in VFA.

Kosher World, Pick N Pay, and Checkers have endless kosher candy and snacks that my kids are in heaven with. The Simba chips and fritos and are amazing, but don't miss Flings!

JNB has nothing to do and is ugly as sin, but man can you eat well there! We ate quarter portions and went to multiple places for some meals just to try them all out as we had the time to kill there anyway and the food is so cheap.

Glad it worked out! If price wasn't a factor, how would you rank JNB as a kosher food destination?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2037 on: November 02, 2021, 02:37:51 PM »
Glad it worked out! If price wasn't a factor, how would you rank JNB as a kosher food destination?
That's one way it reminded me of GRU. Delicious cheap kosher food options, but otherwise an ugly city with practically nothing worth doing aside from eating. Add in one of the world's worst airports, load shedding for no power in many places, no streetlights, no traffic lights, no water, and cops pulling us over for a bribe, and it's a special kind of ********.

Vs. pretty much any other city in the world with kosher food that has several things worth doing.

But the food in JNB holds its own against anywhere in the world. And the price makes it one of the best food spots I've been to and makes it a worthy destination as an extended connection point. Thanks to everyone's help here with the suggestions!
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2038 on: November 02, 2021, 02:41:39 PM »
CPT OTOH is just glorious. I don't understand why more people from JNB haven't made their way to CPT.
And Press has fantastic food and awesome drinks to boot!
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #2039 on: November 02, 2021, 02:42:04 PM »
CPT OTOH is just glorious. I don't understand why more people from JNB haven't made their way to CPT.
And Press has fantastic food and awesome drinks to boot!
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