David Dead Sea Resort & Spa (Formerly Le Meridien Dead Sea)

[nyminute]

Obitz.com decided not to honor this deal.
It affects many people such as myself.
However I am not willing to let this one go .
I wrote to www.consumeraffairs.com to express my dissatisfaction with Orbitz. All 4 months are wrong price?
They claim to be lowest deal in town best service and they give a special code for 15% off.
But they don't stand behind what they promote which leads me to believe they are just a place to gather info and sell listings to other advertisers.
They have a very poor track record with consumer affairs.
I ask that you take a moment and lodge a complaint as well.
I did this with Bookings.com on another promotion and they gave me $50 last week to go away.

[chucksterace]

Repost. http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=39956

Eta: no reason to get so worked up about it. It was a mistake, you lose some, you win some. You had to know when you booked it that it might not be honored.

[nyminute]

Repost. http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=39956

Eta: no reason to get so worked up about it. It was a mistake, you lose some, you win some. You had to know when you booked it that it might not be honored.

Im not worked up at all. Calm as a cucumber my friend. I use these online booking sites when I went to Israel for car rentals and hotels.
Every time I went to a desk wham a problem. Couldn't get car for the price I booked. The insurance was screwed up , the Hotel Ramat Rachel booking (which I overpaid at $250 a day for sons wedding) . Funny how they never offer a refund when you overpay on a booking sites just underpay.
Once you go to these hotels in Israel you realize most are only worth $50 at best a night.
To me $45 a night just seemed like a fair offer for a 2 Star Hotel
Took me all of 3 minutes to file the complaint and see what happens.

[Drago]

The hotels are "worth" what they can charge for them, and due to the high tourism in Israel, they're "worth" insanely high amounts.
In Thailand, they'd go for $10 per night, and in NYC, they'd go for $100.
"Worth" is a subjective measure.

[nyminute]

The hotels are "worth" what they can charge for them, and due to the high tourism in Israel, they're "worth" insanely high amounts.
In Thailand, they'd go for $10 per night, and in NYC, they'd go for $100.
"Worth" is a subjective measure.

Don't know any decent Hotels in NYC for $100 and I live here.
I agree with you supply and demand.
But looks like they went out of business already once so must not be too much demand under old name.

[nyminute]

By the way its Socialism and Government Regulation making  prices artificially high in Israel
Once they finally deregulate industry and move towards a more capitalistic society
you will see how fast prices fall increasing business and profits even more.
Maybe hotels wont have to change name and can finally build a decent business

[Drago]

By the way its Socialism and Government Regulation making  prices artificially high in Israel
Once they finally deregulate industry and move towards a more capitalistic society
you will see how fast prices fall increasing business and profits even more.
Maybe hotels wont have to change name and can finally build a decent business

What socialism is keeping hotel prices high? Or are your writing is as a cute catchphrase?
(I won't disagree that its remnants exist in other areas of the economy, but we're discussing hotels.)

[nyminute]

What socialism is keeping hotel prices high? Or are your writing is as a cute catchphrase?
(I won't disagree that its remnants exist in other areas of the economy, but we're discussing hotels.)

You don't think Socialism has anything to do with paying higher prices hotels? I disagree.
Matter a fact. last Feb when I was there for sons wedding the talk was to deregulate the Hotel industry to bring down the cost because prices are out of hand now.

[Drago]

You don't think Socialism has anything to do with paying higher prices hotels? I disagree.

You can of course disagree, but I'm interested in hearing why it's the case.

Unlike some dairy products for example, the goverment doesn't set any price ceilings to protect the consumer, nor are there any price floors to protect the hotel operator.

You can make the case that there aren't enough hotels, and due to supply/demand, that causes higher rates. But that's more of a function of Israeli bureaucracy, and is a secondary impact.

I also read the news here, and if the government could snap it's finger and build thousands of new hotel rooms tomorrow, they would, b/c they understand that the high prices are an impediment to tourism.

[nyminute]

You can of course disagree, but I'm interested in hearing why it's the case.

Unlike some dairy products for example, the goverment doesn't set any price ceilings to protect the consumer, nor are there any price floors to protect the hotel operator.

You can make the case that there aren't enough hotels, and due to supply/demand, that causes higher rates. But that's more of a function of Israeli bureaucracy, and is a secondary impact.

I also read the news here, and if the government could snap it's finger and build thousands of new hotel rooms tomorrow, they would, b/c they understand that the high prices are an impediment to tourism.

Its simple.
Here is where we might differ as to opinions. Socialism is government control. Government control is lots of regulations on businesses. Regulations cost money. This is how big government keeps afloat. Those cost are then transferred onto people. So for instance. Even if you think Hotels excluded. I tell you they are not. If for instance gas is unusually high due to government then those cost are past onto the consumer one way or another. Now if 10 products a hotel needs to stay afloat are high in price then the cost of a stay is going to be that much more expensive. If the government builds hotels they will never make a profit due to an overloaded bureaucratic socialist system of waste fraud and abuse . The citizens will pick up that tab in the form of higher taxes and higher cost of lodging. That's exactly my point socialism at its finest.  You made my point Thank you!

[Drago]

Its simple.
Here is where we might differ as to opinions. Socialism is government control. Government control is lots of regulations on businesses. Regulations cost money. This is how big government keeps afloat. Those cost are then transferred onto people. So for instance. Even if you think Hotels excluded. I tell you they are not. If for instance gas is unusually high due to government then those cost are past onto the consumer one way or another. Now if 10 products a hotel needs to stay afloat are high in price then the cost of a stay is going to be that much more expensive. If the government builds hotels they will never make a profit due to an overloaded bureaucratic socialist system of waste fraud and abuse . The citizens will pick up that tab in the form of higher taxes and higher cost of lodging. That's exactly my point socialism at its finest.  You made my point Thank you!

So you're making the case that too much government regulations and waste = socialism.
It's quite the expansive definition, as it would cause almost every country too fall into its category, including obviously the US. In that case, Israel is in good company. 

[nyminute]

So you're making the case that too much government regulations and waste = socialism.
It's quite the expansive definition, as it would cause almost every country too fall into its category, including obviously the US. In that case, Israel is in good company. 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I'm saying in Israel's case Socialism led to too much government regulations control that lead to waste fraud and abuse= high over inflated prices on everything in society
Here in America we are headed if not already partially there with Obama in office down the same path.
While Israel is trying to move away from Socialism we in America are now dabbling in it especially with Government taking over another 1/6 of our economy under the guise of healthcare.

[Drago]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I'm saying in Israel's case Socialism led to too much government regulations control that lead to waste fraud and abuse= high over inflated prices on everything in society
Here in America we are headed if not already partially there with Obama in office down the same path.
While Israel is trying to move away from Socialism we in America are now dabbling in it especially with Government taking over another 1/6 of our economy under the guise of healthcare.

At least I can take solace that we're slllooowwwlllyyy moving in the correct direction, although it's not too tough w/ our top-bottom history.

[nyminute]

At least I can take solace that we're slllooowwwlllyyy moving in the correct direction, although it's not too tough w/ our top-bottom history.

Its unfortunate as Jews we never learned our history lessons of life.
But good luck with your venture into Socialism . When our Communist Mayor runs for President be sure to help elect him!

[Drago]

But good luck with your venture out of Socialism .

FTFY

[nyminute]

FTFY

That's Progressive Liberalism for you. Changing my quote

[chucksterace]

Hey guys, maybe ladies.. YOU ARE SO OFF TOPIC. Thank you.

[nyminute]

Hey guys, maybe ladies.. YOU ARE SO OFF TOPIC. Thank you.

You telling me? lol
When I hear a fellow Jew talk about his love of Socialism it just behooves me .
After all we as people have been through , we would gladly surrender our life liberties and pursuit of happiness once again to a government.
Doing the same nutty thing over and over again expecting a different result.

[Drago]

You telling me? lol
When I hear a fellow Jew talk about his love of Socialism it just behooves me .
After all we as people have been through , we would gladly surrender our life liberties and pursuit of happiness once again to a government.
Doing the same nutty thing over and over again expecting a different result.

I think you've missed my point of view. I've completely against the socialist system of government and economics, am a fan of Ayn Rand, and am happy that Israel is slowly escaping from their socialist background.
I simply disagreed that socialism was the direct cause for high hotel prices in Israel.

Speaking of which, have you signed up fro Obamacare before the tax hits tonight?

[nyminute]

I think you've missed my point of view. I've completely against the socialist system of government and economics, am a fan of Ayn Rand, and am happy that Israel is slowly escaping from their socialist background.
I simply disagreed that socialism was the direct cause for high hotel prices in Israel.

Speaking of which, have you signed up fro Obamacare before the tax hits tonight?

Guess I missed the pun.
Actually we have for now excellent quality Private Health Insurance we pay a ton for.
I guess its considered today a Cadillac Plan we probably will lose down the road due to Obamacare.
But Im not sire if Im covered in case I get pregnant like Obama wants ..... (Im a guy)