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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2016, 04:51:33 PM »
Because before they will allow you to renounce, they want you to update your family status, and all children will have to be registered as Israeli citizens, and then you can request to renounce for yourself and children under 18.

they wont let you renounce for parents and only those children that have passports already?

in ny both parents have to go with minor children to the consular to do this?

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2016, 04:53:20 PM »
also keep in mind they charge like 85-95 dollars to renounce but I am not sure if that is per child/person or family?

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2016, 06:05:48 PM »
Is there a limit to how much time one can spend in Israel if you revoke citizenship?

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2016, 07:22:38 PM »
http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ConsularServices/Pages/Renouncing_Israeli_citizenship.aspx

IIRC you can only do it outside Israel. Children under 18 can be included in parent application and there is no additional fee (however if they are not yet registered as Israeli citizens, that will be required first).
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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2016, 04:14:12 AM »
Contact israeli shortcut very helpful on these topics. israelishortcut.org

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2016, 11:23:29 AM »
Is there a limit to how much time one can spend in Israel if you revoke citizenship?
You just become like any other non-citizen (except that you can't qualify for aliya benefits if you decide to settle there).
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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2016, 12:54:54 PM »
http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ConsularServices/Pages/Renouncing_Israeli_citizenship.aspx

IIRC you can only do it outside Israel. Children under 18 can be included in parent application and there is no additional fee (however if they are not yet registered as Israeli citizens, that will be required first).

how will they know about other children if other children have no passports and are not in the system

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2016, 01:23:59 PM »
how will they know about other children if other children have no passports and are not in the system
Did they ever travel to Israel?

Are you going to hide the truth?

I don't know what's the right way to go about it, but you do have to realize that you are dealing with a "big brother" type of country.
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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2016, 03:30:53 PM »
Did they ever travel to Israel?

Are you going to hide the truth?

I don't know what's the right way to go about it, but you do have to realize that you are dealing with a "big brother" type of country.

have you done this by the way? do they ask you for all family members or do you just submit the names you want to renounce?

in my experience if minor child does not have israeli passport they let the minor child enter with US passport and did not make an issue about them getting israeli passport

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2016, 03:47:57 PM »
in my experience if minor child does not have israeli passport they let the minor child enter with US passport and did not make an issue about them getting israeli passport
I've heard of various experiences, though most of the negative ones probably date back to the 90s or maybe early 00s.

Bottom line, don't think they are stupid and don't know. If the minor ever entered the country along with Israeli parent, they have that on record.
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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2016, 03:53:05 PM »
There is another option, change your last name.

All you need is one letter off, as long as your passport does not say born in Jerusalem you should be fine.

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2016, 04:44:41 PM »
There is another option, change your last name.

All you need is one letter off, as long as your passport does not say born in Jerusalem you should be fine.
You really think they are stupid? They might not make an issue when entering, but renouncing is different.
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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2016, 04:53:23 PM »
what if one has property in israel does renouncing citizenship affect  it anyway?
I heard recently israel is attempting to pass a law that taxes foreigners who own property in israel, not sure what the details are and if it passed/or about to or was just an idea.

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2016, 05:09:18 PM »
I've heard of various experiences, though most of the negative ones probably date back to the 90s or maybe early 00s.

Bottom line, don't think they are stupid and don't know. If the minor ever entered the country along with Israeli parent, they have that on record.

i don't disagree that they know just wanted to point out that it seems then do not enforce this rule of obtaining an israeli passport for minors when entering and existing in Israel at least in my experience.

but back to question of renouncing do they just take the names you put down to renounce or do they search for all possible names in the family etc...

and yes both parents have to appear and cannot be done in Israel

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Re: To get an Israeli passport or not?
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2016, 08:40:06 PM »
I heard recently israel is attempting to pass a law that taxes foreigners who own property in israel, not sure what the details are and if it passed/or about to or was just an idea.

The tax is for both Israeli and foreign owners of 3 or more apartments, and for those who have apartments without living in them for most of the year, and not renting them, they are trying to control the increase in apartment prices, it will not work.
Also if you renounce Israeli citizenship it is much harder to get again when needed, my family and I are all keeping our Israeli citizenship, if or when it gets bad here like a repeat of 2008-09 and it will, ill have a place in Jerusalem to move to.
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