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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1860 on: May 27, 2015, 05:49:05 PM »
I have the docs, but how do I upload PDFs?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lyz1hnw2urpf8z1/1-main%20-%20complaint.pdf?dl=0

Thanks, MarkS.

Should have used his Amex!

Anyone know if Chase has a deadline in their T&C?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1861 on: May 27, 2015, 05:49:55 PM »
Who can give us the TL;DR?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1862 on: May 27, 2015, 05:55:49 PM »
Who can give us the TL;DR?
Its worth reading

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1863 on: May 27, 2015, 05:57:23 PM »
this part blows my mind, did it really take that long?
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31.In  February,  2015,  he usedthe  internet  to  search  for  the  names  Chandran, Kloihofer and Sungame.  His on-line  search  using  Google  and  other  search  engines revealed  dozens  of  web  pages  and  entries  discussing  how  these  individuals  and  this  company scams consumers and buyers.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1864 on: May 27, 2015, 06:08:04 PM »
So when is chase gonna sue back for fraud?

The investors knew, or should have known that the purchase was fraudulent and relied on the chase cc protection to complete the "investment transaction".

There is no mention of the other part of the " deal"...

No one needs 50 garbage tablets...

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1865 on: May 27, 2015, 06:09:40 PM »
So when is chase gonna sue back for fraud?

The investors knew, or should have known that the purchase was fraudulent and relied on the chase cc protection to complete the "investment transaction".


Did they? I was under the impression that they were told "if it doesn't work out" they would be able to chatge back, but the intention (of the investors) was to get the money...

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1866 on: May 27, 2015, 06:24:03 PM »
Its worth reading
Is there at least one laugh-out-loud line in there?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1867 on: May 27, 2015, 06:27:00 PM »
Did they? I was under the impression that they were told "if it doesn't work out" they would be able to chatge back, but the intention (of the investors) was to get the money...
I don't understand .
How were the investors supposed to make a profit?

Getting free junk tablets is nice but no one in their right mind puts 50k down for FAR crappy tablets.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1868 on: May 27, 2015, 06:30:07 PM »
Soon the jury will be going thru this thread

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1869 on: May 27, 2015, 06:37:36 PM »
Soon the jury will be going thru this thread
Ain't gonna be a jury. They will all settle.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1870 on: May 27, 2015, 06:43:31 PM »
Ain't gonna be a jury. It will be dismissed as to Chase, and not prosecuted as to the rest.

FTFY

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1871 on: May 27, 2015, 06:49:16 PM »
FTFY
OK but will any "investors" be investigated?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1872 on: May 27, 2015, 06:55:09 PM »
One question that I have is can these "rabonim" really get locked up for encouraging others to "invest" how is this different from illegal mlms that get shut down and only the leaders get in trouble but the others who recruited investors don't get into trouble because they were fooled themselves?

 I'd love to see these mamzairim rot in prison, just wondering what they did that's illegal.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1873 on: May 27, 2015, 08:47:13 PM »
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36.
Additionally, the NJ Uniform Securities Law at N.J.S.A. 49:3-47 et seq. (the “NJ USL”)
makes it illegal to pump and puff a public corporation’s stock by fraudulent means. 
Isn't this a problem for him as well?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1874 on: May 27, 2015, 08:47:40 PM »
Isn't this a problem for him as well?
Ding ding!
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1875 on: May 27, 2015, 08:56:12 PM »
Ding ding!
I guess his claim is based on:
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82.
By doing so, he was rendered a pawn in an illegal stock manipulation scam, and
was harmed as a result.
But it's hard to see how he can justify that he was an unknowing pawn after:
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10.
It  was  explained  to  him by  Kloihofer  that  the  company  Sungame  wanted  to
demonstrate  its  success  and  strength  in  the  marketplace.    Once  the  sale  was  disclosed
to  the public and used for marketing purposes, Kloihofer and Sungame promised that his
purchase money  would  be returned in full, in the form of a 100% rebate of the purchase price.
Kloihofer added that the Tablets would not have to be returned.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1876 on: May 27, 2015, 08:58:56 PM »
I guess his claim is based on:But it's hard to see how he can justify that he was an unknowing pawn after:
Not to mention that he markets himself as a highly sophisticated investor..

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1877 on: May 27, 2015, 08:59:52 PM »
Theory: the civil complaint is just an opening move in a criminal case in which plaintiff was already promised protection. He will see no money and he knows it. He just wants the satisfaction of seeing the scammers get taken down.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1878 on: May 27, 2015, 09:00:22 PM »
this part blows my mind, did it really take that long?
I wouldn't invest $100 in something without Googling the person's name.  This whole thing is so odd.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #1879 on: May 27, 2015, 09:02:33 PM »
He will see no money and he knows it. He just wants the satisfaction of seeing the scammers get taken down.
Doubt anything but money would make a person publicly admit his naiveté


Quite strange that these guys are still walking freely
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