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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #405 on: August 14, 2014, 02:25:01 PM »
Think I should main site the voicemail or am I inviting trouble for no reason?

I don't think posting it would change the opinion of anyone already invested in it.
If there are any 'expensive lawyers' though, making a public statement might just be inviting trouble for no reason.

BTW, I think the original DDMS post you did on this was excellent, kol hakavod!

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #406 on: August 14, 2014, 02:30:02 PM »
I don't want to give an opinion here that may be mistaken for legal advice, so I'll shut up.
being legally in the right doesn't always save the hassle of defending it
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #407 on: August 14, 2014, 02:31:30 PM »
Incidentally- what are the laws about slander? Are you allowed to slander somebody under the first amendment?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #409 on: August 14, 2014, 02:40:53 PM »
Dan in your post on the main site you never mentioned their name ?? so even if she was serious what case could they make against you??  ???


you never mentioned any specific company on ddms .. 
Actually I think it was mentioned, but it was removed afterwards. See the following post:
Very smart to write ScamHarvestGamesAmerica, it won't come up in Google search but it is clear enough to the reader.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #410 on: August 14, 2014, 02:42:55 PM »
Think I should main site the voicemail or am I inviting trouble for no reason?
I wouldn't dignify it with a response.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #411 on: August 14, 2014, 02:53:24 PM »
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions
Still not sure what the difference between stating an opinion and slandering... or can you be liable for stating a slanderous opinion?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #412 on: August 14, 2014, 02:56:15 PM »

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #413 on: August 14, 2014, 03:11:10 PM »
If Mrs. Whatever-her-name-is actually suffered damages because of what Dan said about Sungames- can she even sue on behalf of Sungames?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #414 on: August 14, 2014, 03:13:38 PM »
Strange how Jews are so often the scammers and so often the naive ones being scammed.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #415 on: August 14, 2014, 03:22:12 PM »
There needs to be basic financial education in frum communities (even the ones that avoid limudei chol) it's not just MLM scams its also ponzi schemes and building projects in Israel etc. So many people are at risk at losing everything because my friend looked into it or "he's frum" .....

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #416 on: August 14, 2014, 03:32:46 PM »

There needs to be basic financial education in frum communities (even the ones that avoid limudei chol) it's not just MLM scams its also ponzi schemes and building projects in Israel etc. So many people are at risk at losing everything because my friend looked into it or "he's frum" .....

It's not the lack of education. 

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #417 on: August 14, 2014, 03:34:21 PM »
It's not the lack of education.
Rather? Part of the education needs to be not to believe random people

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #418 on: August 14, 2014, 03:51:42 PM »
Rather? Part of the education needs to be not to believe random people
But then what do you do when the rov of your shul is the one pushing a scam? (As is also happening in this case) Aren't the congregants supposed to trust him?

It's simply educating people to be honest, straight, and teach them what it means to have a work ethic, don't look for the sleazy quick buck, make an honest living. People who have these solid values don't invest in this type of scam.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #419 on: August 14, 2014, 04:02:05 PM »
It's not the lack of education.
+a million