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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #285 on: June 13, 2014, 12:58:14 PM »
I can't even get past what the title should be.  Why do orthodox jews fall prey to stupid scams? Why do people fall prey to stupid scams?
Either way the post will feel pretty non-sequitur.
Deals vs.Scams?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #286 on: June 13, 2014, 01:21:49 PM »
Deals vs.Scams?

Scamming v getting scammed

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #287 on: June 13, 2014, 01:27:19 PM »
Scamming v getting scammed
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #288 on: June 13, 2014, 02:52:05 PM »

Worth making a post on this crap or does it just legitimize it?
Either way it'll turn into a p$%^ing contest I'm afraid.
If you can afford going through the hell that I can only imagine about at this point...

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #289 on: June 14, 2014, 03:14:47 PM »
having  dansdeals associated with it can only do harm.  Better to just had very  soon post on the topic buy without specific cases
And then e/o involved with this case think to themselves that SunGames is perfectly okay, and that they're too smart to get involve in a scam.

If he's afraid of the post being SunGames centric, then post examples of scams to hit the Jewish community in the past, and mention SunGames as an example of being a current scam.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #290 on: June 15, 2014, 12:25:46 AM »
And then e/o involved with this case think to themselves that SunGames is perfectly okay, and that they're too smart to get involve in a scam.

If he's afraid of the post being SunGames centric, then post examples of scams to hit the Jewish community in the past, and mention SunGames as an example of being a current scam.
I don't know that it is smart to mention a specific entity. That can lead to problems.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #291 on: June 15, 2014, 12:31:42 AM »
I know of a specific case where the guy got bought into this "scam". When I heard about it he was very scared that his wife would find out,  and it would cause issues.
Maybe that's another reason not to mention the name of the scam!!

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #292 on: June 15, 2014, 02:14:26 AM »
I don't know that it is smart to mention a specific entity. That can lead to problems.
Without doing that, no one involved in this scam will have any idea that they're involved in a scam.
He should double check with a lawyer to ensure there's no libel, but once he gets the okay, this could do a lot of good for the community and it would certainly be a meritorious deed (mitzva).

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #293 on: June 15, 2014, 03:21:03 AM »
I can't even get past what the title should be.  Why do orthodox jews fall prey to stupid scams? Why do people fall prey to stupid scams?
b/c they are naive and think someone else with a orthodox appearance can be trusted, i highly doubt that the numbers of ppl getting scammed would be so high if the company rep/sales rep/scammer were not frum

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #294 on: June 15, 2014, 08:50:15 AM »
Without doing that, no one involved in this scam will have any idea that they're involved in a scam.
He should double check with a lawyer to ensure there's no libel, but once he gets the okay, this could do a lot of good for the community and it would certainly be a meritorious deed (mitzva).
dealing with a meritless lawsuit isn't exactly a walk in the park.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #295 on: June 15, 2014, 09:13:26 AM »
dealing with a meritless lawsuit isn't exactly a walk in the park.
So how about a mass campaign of writing into the AG and press groups.
Or if anyone has contacts at the local frum papers?


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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #296 on: June 15, 2014, 09:30:16 AM »
dealing with a meritless lawsuit isn't exactly a walk in the park.
Lawsuit from who?? You dont have to name names, just write that the whole company is a shell with no viable business or plan. (As is obvious from their audited financial statements)
 This means that any investment model is based on profiting of others who will lose money. Anyone who convinces you to pump cash into a shell is a scammer. Its that simple.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #297 on: June 15, 2014, 10:50:49 AM »
Why do these MLMs seem to center on Lakewood?
I mean I understand there's a higher percentage of people learning instead of working, but do people in Willi or CH not go for this stuff at the same rate?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #298 on: June 15, 2014, 10:52:31 AM »
Why do these MLMs seem to center on Lakewood?
I mean I understand there's a higher percentage of people learning instead of working, but do people in Willi or CH not go for this stuff at the same rate?
Is this stuff on the books?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #299 on: June 15, 2014, 10:54:34 AM »
Why do these MLMs seem to center on Lakewood?
I mean I understand there's a higher percentage of people learning instead of working, but do people in Willi or CH not go for this stuff at the same rate?
this one is definitely not centered in Lakewood. It  has its roots in monsey and its tentacles are much more widespread