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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #300 on: June 15, 2014, 11:09:16 AM »
this one is definitely not centered in Lakewood. It  has its roots in monsey and its tentacles are much more widespread
Thanks.
What ever happened with the MHA one?  What other big ones have there been?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #301 on: June 15, 2014, 11:21:26 AM »
Lawsuit from who?? You dont have to name names, just write that the whole company is a shell with no viable business or plan. (As is obvious from their audited financial statements)
 This means that any investment model is based on profiting of others who will lose money. Anyone who convinces you to pump cash into a shell is a scammer. Its that simple.
I think you are confusing issues. The OP is not about investing in their stock. I don't think that is the real scam aspect of this. Anyone who invests in an OTC stock had better be ready to lose money. Many of them have similar disclaimers. The real discussion is the whole shtick with the tablets and rebates. That is an outright scam to swipe a card for tablets you never get and file for rebates and can be federal fraud. To name a company in that regard is to call the company criminal and is inviting a lawsuit from the corporate entity and its investors and officers.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #302 on: June 15, 2014, 11:23:16 AM »
Thanks.
What ever happened with the MHA one?  What other big ones have there been?
Veridian!   Lol.

In all seriousness though, while consumers should check their bill every month, at the end of the day tons of people signed up and then didnt realize when the Veridian price shot up.

So the agent makes a few bucks in comissions at the cost of many thousands of wasted dollars on higher utility bills.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #303 on: June 15, 2014, 11:26:58 AM »
I think you are confusing issues. The OP is not about investing in their stock. I don't think that is the real scam aspect of this. Anyone who invests in an OTC stock had better be ready to lose money. Many of them have similar disclaimers. The real discussion is the whole shtick with the tablets and rebates. That is an outright scam to swipe a card for tablets you never get and file for rebates and can be federal fraud. To name a company in that regard is to call the company criminal and is inviting a lawsuit from the corporate entity and its investors and officers.
Ok, I honestly don't understand wth this is all about.
Its like if I call myself a merchant, swipe your card, and then you do a dispute? Why wont the bank come after me for the money??

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #304 on: June 15, 2014, 11:28:26 AM »
Veridian!   Lol.

In all seriousness though, while consumers should check their bill every month, at the end of the day tons of people signed up and then didnt realize when the Veridian price shot up.

So the agent makes a few bucks in comissions at the cost of many thousands of wasted dollars on higher utility bills.
Veridien MLM scam is still alive in lakewood. Its insane how people are still being convinced that they can get rich doing this...

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #305 on: June 15, 2014, 11:28:37 AM »
Thanks.
What ever happened with the MHA one?
same guy

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #306 on: June 15, 2014, 11:31:14 AM »
same guy
And here is a name:
Anyone hear of www.MyHarvestAmerica.com? I was wondering if it's a scam. You can get $300 prepaid debit card for only $255. Did anybody out there here about it or sign up for it? I want to if anyone had any problems with them. I already took the chance and signed up for it. I figured, if it's a scam, I'll just dispute the charge. So far it's great and really worth it. If you want to sign up, let me know, I'll tell you how. First just check out the sight and google it for scams. (I didn't find any scam report on it, let me know if you do) BTW, on a side note, you can also make money by signing up people under your account. Sounds sketchy....until my brother got his check!! (I'm waitng for mine too)

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #307 on: June 15, 2014, 11:31:32 AM »
The real discussion is the whole shtick with the tablets and rebates. That is an outright scam to swipe a card for tablets you never get
incorrect, you do receive the tablets, it's just at many times the face value and you don't want them to begin with

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #308 on: June 15, 2014, 11:38:11 AM »
Lawsuit from who?? You dont have to name names, just write that the whole company is a shell with no viable business or plan. (As is obvious from their audited financial statements)
 This means that any investment model is based on profiting of others who will lose money. Anyone who convinces you to pump cash into a shell is a scammer. Its that simple.
Great point.
Dan can quote from their financial statements and explain what that means. And then give previous examples of these cases.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #309 on: June 15, 2014, 11:40:05 AM »
I can't even get past what the title should be.

Maybe something like "Great Deal or (adjective) Scam? How to tell the difference"

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #310 on: June 15, 2014, 11:40:27 AM »
incorrect, you do receive the tablets, it's just at many times the face value and you don't want them to begin with
that is not what the OP wrote
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #311 on: June 15, 2014, 11:43:18 AM »
that is not what the OP wrote
well that is the case

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #312 on: June 15, 2014, 11:43:35 AM »
Veridian!   Lol.

In all seriousness though, while consumers should check their bill every month, at the end of the day tons of people signed up and then didnt realize when the Veridian price shot up.

So the agent makes a few bucks in comissions at the cost of many thousands of wasted dollars on higher utility bills.


Veridien MLM scam is still alive in lakewood. Its insane how people are still being convinced that they can get rich doing this...
Couldn't agree more. I can't stand the energy MLMs. Their customers end up losing tons and are soured on the whole energy deregulation which when done right can save tons for commercial customers.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #313 on: June 15, 2014, 11:47:27 AM »
incorrect, you do receive the tablets, it's just at many times the face value and you don't want them to begin with


that is not what the OP wrote


well that is the case
Fine, but that is the portion which is the real issue anyhow.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #314 on: June 15, 2014, 12:04:21 PM »
Great point.
Dan can quote from their financial statements and explain what that means. And then give previous examples of these cases.
And here is an article that does the leg work.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1466721-sungame-a-penny-stock-trading-for-2_1-billion