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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #420 on: August 14, 2014, 04:07:33 PM »
It's not the lack of education. 
How many doctors, lawyers, and accountants do you think are invested in this?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #421 on: August 14, 2014, 04:09:16 PM »
How many doctors, lawyers, and accountants do you think are invested in this?
Hey, the smart ones who bought the stocks and shorted them in time!
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #422 on: August 14, 2014, 04:12:04 PM »
How many doctors, lawyers, and accountants do you think are invested in this?
how many of them invested in Madoff?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #423 on: August 14, 2014, 04:22:19 PM »
how many of them invested in Madoff?
Madoff was a well known, reputable name at that time
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #424 on: August 14, 2014, 04:23:28 PM »
But then what do you do when the rov of your shul is the one pushing a scam? (As is also happening in this case) Aren't the congregants supposed to trust him?

It's simply educating people to be honest, straight, and teach them what it means to have a work ethic, don't look for the sleazy quick buck, make an honest living. People who have these solid values don't invest in this type of scam.
I think a lot of problems would be solved if just the Rabbonim got some solid secular education.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #425 on: August 14, 2014, 04:25:16 PM »
How many doctors, lawyers, and accountants do you think are invested in this?
They are usually not involved in these schemes ever since they are living check to check, and the notion of making a possibly quick dollar on shady businesses is not as tantalizing

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #426 on: August 14, 2014, 04:33:35 PM »
They are usually not involved in these schemes ever since they are living check to check, and the notion of making a possibly quick dollar on shady businesses is not as tantalizing
More reason for people to get some education...
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #427 on: August 14, 2014, 04:36:21 PM »

More reason for people to get some education...

The OP was referring to *financial* education, as if the lack thereof was the cause.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #428 on: August 14, 2014, 04:37:05 PM »
Madoff was a well known, reputable name at that time
and Dwek, Shick, Weinstein, Rothstein, etc.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #429 on: August 14, 2014, 04:43:25 PM »
It only counts if you're a really expensive lawyer.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #430 on: August 14, 2014, 04:46:56 PM »
and Dwek, Shick, Weinstein, Rothstein, etc.
I actually don't know those names. But Madoff was a NASDAQ chairman, so it's a lot more understandable if doctors and lawyers invested in him.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #431 on: August 14, 2014, 05:35:01 PM »
Let's just say they were ponzis which had many professionals and successful businessmen invested in them.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #432 on: August 15, 2014, 12:25:05 PM »
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #433 on: August 15, 2014, 12:32:28 PM »

More reason for people to get some education...

While I agree that the lack of secular education is a problem in the NY frum community, I don't think that the propensity to fall for these scams is because of it.

People have little exposure to the secular world, and have ingrained in them trust of other frum ppl. Not a bad thing in itself, but scams like these appear clearly as scams only to someone who has been exposed to similar stuff before.
If someone never saw one of those 'you've won $1m!!!' Letters in the mail, I would excuse them for believing it was real at first.
Financial education might help, but I think the only thing that will really help is less isolation from the outside world.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #434 on: August 15, 2014, 02:13:00 PM »
From all scams why are we singling out sungames? There are so many scams out there why attack this one