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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #825 on: October 20, 2014, 01:59:35 PM »
Chargebacks are less effective the further out they are.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #826 on: October 20, 2014, 02:04:23 PM »
Agreed, but what does the investor gain from doing the chargeback today as opposed to in two months when the whole thing falls apart on it's own?
...and, for those who are paying interest on their CC bills, and/or are hurting their credit score.... should end it sooner.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #827 on: October 20, 2014, 02:35:49 PM »
Chargebacks are less effective the further out they are.
Is there a difference between 12 and 14 months?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #828 on: October 20, 2014, 03:35:52 PM »
 I just find it sick and disgusting that they are still raising money. The leaders raise money, keep 10% as brokers, and move on. They have nothing to lose! ... keep raising money and screw everyone else. I know leaders that already earned tens of thousands as a broker! They have nothing to lose by continuing to raise more money.
   It all comes around....maybe today...maybe tomorrow.... but it all comes around. The leaders will have lots of explaining to do. They cannot play dumb. There are  too many written emails and recorded calls out there. They will have to answer to the authorities.
  When all the names get out, many yeshivas will have a lot to explain. Tzedaka organizations will be questioned for good reason. All the leaders will be held responsible.
 

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #829 on: October 20, 2014, 03:39:49 PM »
Or nobody will talk as they'll be threatened if they do.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #830 on: October 20, 2014, 03:51:52 PM »
 Everyone is afraid at this time. I think once they come to the realization that the money is lost and gone forever, there will be some real upset people out there and that is when names and organizations will all come out. Especially organizations and yeshivas which collect money and people are giving them money as tzedaka and they are losing it and flushing down the toilet. All in time i guess.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #831 on: October 20, 2014, 04:04:54 PM »
Everyone is afraid at this time. I think once they come to the realization that the money is lost and gone forever, there will be some real upset people out there and that is when names and organizations will all come out. Especially organizations and yeshivas which collect money and people are giving them money as tzedaka and they are losing it and flushing down the toilet. All in time i guess.
Nu, start name dropping so ppl don't think they can get away with this each time.
Custodians of hekdesh money can't play around.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #832 on: October 20, 2014, 04:17:43 PM »
I'm so surprised that this "Rov" M hasn't been thrown out of the tzedaka organization and his shul for conning naive people into giving him their money for his own personal benefit. And this is not his first time to the rodeo...

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #833 on: October 21, 2014, 10:09:26 AM »
I know someone that lost money and shimi W and Rabbi M lied and scammed them. I know that they got money already.
 I do not understand how Rabbi M can be involved in running a tzedaka organization when he cant be trusted and a liar and known thief!
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #834 on: October 27, 2014, 12:17:50 PM »
So Shimi W has disappeared after he made some money. Now the new big shot is Shragie G. No one has made a cent yet -except for the top leaders who take their commission from monies raised. Yet , they still keep asking for more money and threaten those that want to chargeback. Interesting.
   Today story will probably go like this, Neil is in Asia meeting with Facebook and working out a deal with Samsung which will take place in London. The monies , after the big deal goes through will be dispersed to all your accounts. However, to make this all happen, we need another 120K! ... Lets go for it!"
  As long as we all remember-  " We are almost there!"

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #835 on: October 27, 2014, 10:36:17 PM »
So Shimi W has disappeared after he made some money. Now the new big shot is Shragie G. No one has made a cent yet -except for the top leaders who take their commission from monies raised. Yet , they still keep asking for more money and threaten those that want to chargeback. Interesting.
   Today story will probably go like this, Neil is in Asia meeting with Facebook and working out a deal with Samsung which will take place in London. The monies , after the big deal goes through will be dispersed to all your accounts. However, to make this all happen, we need another 120K! ... Lets go for it!"
  As long as we all remember-  " We are almost there!"
We don't care anymore about these stupid updates if you have any real news please post it otherwise we are not interested.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #836 on: October 28, 2014, 02:41:13 AM »
We don't care anymore about these stupid updates if you have any real news please post it otherwise we are not interested.
Who is "WE"?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #838 on: October 28, 2014, 04:56:02 AM »
Who is "WE"?

I'm kinda with him on this one. Citing first names and only an initial for the last name is not called  "real news". And the jokes where Abe proposes Neal's "itinerary" were cute at first, but are now getting tiresome and repetitive.

Sorry if I sound a bit harsh.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #839 on: October 28, 2014, 06:59:14 AM »
And this is coming from people who have no skin in the game!  Helps you see how frustrating the excuses are to the people that dumped money into it!

IIRC upthread people were expressing interest in seeing the emails that are being sent out, as well as begging for A) More info B) Someone to speak out against it.   Seems like Abe is doing just that.....     Quieting him sounds like a win for the scammers....
« Last Edit: October 28, 2014, 07:03:05 AM by MarkS »