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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #855 on: October 30, 2014, 02:02:05 AM »
The people over here knows what to do even if u dont put real names, and people that aren't on DDF wouldn't know even if there is real names, so I think no point
But if ppl google their names in the future when they're reseaching doing biz with them, then they'll come across this thread and that would stop them.
So there is a good point to list their names.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #856 on: October 30, 2014, 10:13:56 AM »
googling the names didnt help many people who made this investment. I personally know of more than 5 people who knew going into this scam that the people involved had bad reviews on previous scams.Just the nature of people, when they are promised riches, and initially they had nothing to lose(i:e disputing the cc charges) they will buy in. aka madof....

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #857 on: October 30, 2014, 10:17:14 AM »
googling the names didnt help many people who made this investment. I personally know of more than 5 people who knew going into this scam that the people involved had bad reviews on previous scams.Just the nature of people, when they are promised riches, and initially they had nothing to lose(i:e disputing the cc charges) they will buy in. aka madof....
Madoff didn't have bad reviews...
Knowing someone is a scammer and still investing with him falls under the category of שוטה אסור לרחם עליו IMHO
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #858 on: October 30, 2014, 10:36:00 AM »
I agree. However in madoffs case , people intentionally turned a blind eye.its called "shochad". All im saying is giving names out doesnt help. Even people from the most respectable institutions in Monsey were in this deal. And they knew that they were scammers. The smart ones got out (disputed cc charges) or never went in at all.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #859 on: October 30, 2014, 10:56:46 AM »
Something I don't understand is why disputing cc charges by a failed investment helps? The purchase isn't a mistake or misleading, its an investment that can go sour just like any legitment investment.
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #860 on: October 30, 2014, 10:59:37 AM »
They were promised an initial rebate and a tablet and an educational grant. If they didn't receive any of those, there is room for a dispute. Must places received these promises in writing

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #861 on: October 30, 2014, 02:03:59 PM »
They were promised an initial rebate and a tablet and an educational grant. If they didn't receive any of those, there is room for a dispute. Must places received these promises in writing

Suppose we agree you will buy bonds issued by my compamy and I promise you will receive your money plus 10% per year. Then I go bankrupt. Can you do a chargeback on your cc?

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #862 on: October 30, 2014, 02:08:20 PM »
No. They weren't offering bonds or an investment in their company. As I said before it was a rebate and an educational grant both were guaranteed. And the sale of the tablets were contingent on those clauses.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #863 on: October 30, 2014, 04:57:48 PM »
Suppose we agree you will buy bonds issued by my compamy and I promise you will receive your money plus 10% per year. Then I go bankrupt. Can you do a chargeback on your cc?

I don't think so. If you received actual bonds (not fake ones), then the "merchandise" was provided as described, regardless if they later become worthless because of the bankruptcy. If they were proper bonds with an actual contract that promises certain returns, you can register as a creditor for the bankruptcy proceeding. You will get priority over investors. However, it's not likely that you'll recover very much.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #864 on: October 30, 2014, 05:02:03 PM »
Suppose we agree you will buy bonds issued by my compamy and I promise you will receive your money plus 10% per year. Then I go bankrupt. Can you do a chargeback on your cc?
Isn't there regulations about buying securities with a CC is not allowed?
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #865 on: October 30, 2014, 10:15:25 PM »
Isn't there regulations about buying securities with a CC is not allowed?
I don't think so.

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #866 on: October 31, 2014, 08:49:57 AM »
I feel the need to add my comments too. I have made a bankdeposit of $ 6.000 on 14-02-2014. I received my 3D tablet in the last week of june and got my
money back in full last week. I am now waiting to see what the gift will be. My leader tells me it is coming anyday now. But at least i am already breakeven in cash and have a nice tablet as interest for lending my money for 8 months...

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #867 on: October 31, 2014, 08:59:54 AM »
I feel the need to add my comments too. I have made a bankdeposit of $ 6.000 on 14-02-2014. I received my 3D tablet in the last week of june and got my
money back in full last week. I am now waiting to see what the gift will be. My leader tells me it is coming anyday now. But at least i am already breakeven in cash and have a nice tablet as interest for lending my money for 8 months...
Your full of crap

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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #868 on: October 31, 2014, 09:18:38 AM »
Your full of crap
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Re: Scam Alert Sungames
« Reply #869 on: October 31, 2014, 09:29:54 AM »
Your full of crap
Darn, & here I thought the tides were finally turning.