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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2014, 08:39:44 PM »
1. Your deep chakiros in their methods is a resounding reason why for close minded Lakewood people it's best to just leave things be. (Do you have any idea what kind of efforts were involved in getting a place for OTD/at risk kids in Lakewood?) The Lakewood mentality is "We don't talk about problems, ergo they don't exist"
2. Emuna isn't not knowing why you are Jewish. So there is no Mesorah method any more. Period. How is Chakia a step back?
3. How you jumped to the conclusion that they are professing Chakira is unclear to me. Discussing Emuna doesn't automatically make it Chakira+1
And I doubt R' Matisyahu would be so pro their method if it was
One thing I know for sure - you know nothing about Lakewood.

To classify a whole community of tens of thousands of people in one category, is the definition of immaturity, and the outcome of hatred.

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #76 on: April 08, 2014, 10:08:08 PM »
Sorry guys, just stating facts. The fact that pretty much anyone who could even dream that there is a problem is from Lakewood, should speak volumes. There is a reason why it's currently the worst city in the world to raise children
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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #77 on: April 08, 2014, 10:11:08 PM »
Sorry guys, just stating facts. The fact that pretty much anyone who could even dream that there is a problem is from Lakewood, should speak volumes. There is a reason why it's currently the worst city in the world to raise children

Wow! That's intense!

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #78 on: April 08, 2014, 10:12:20 PM »
To classify a whole community of tens of thousands of people in one category, is the definition of immaturity, and the outcome of hatred.
No hate here. But yes, I am aware that that is the standard line that apparently every Lakewooder has been trained to reply
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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #79 on: April 08, 2014, 10:12:38 PM »
Wow! That's intense!
It's the truth. Highest OTD rate/worst chinuch. Care to suggest a city that is worse?
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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #80 on: April 08, 2014, 10:13:00 PM »
Sorry guys, just stating facts. The fact that pretty much anyone who could even dream that there is a problem is from Lakewood, should speak volumes. There is a reason why it's currently the worst city in the world to raise children
So we went from an intelligent discussion about the methods of transmitting emuna to children, to random Lakewood bashing.
C'mon, Stay on topic!

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #81 on: April 08, 2014, 10:13:44 PM »
So we went from an intelligent discussion about the methods of transmitting emuna to children, to random Lakewood bashing.
C'mon, Stay on topic!
The topic is, only in Lakewood would you find a brain so tzdreit to find something wrong with discussing emuna at the seder
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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #82 on: April 08, 2014, 10:13:58 PM »
It's the truth. Highest OTD rate/worst chinuch. Care to suggest a city that is worse?
how about this: That's pure BS.

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #83 on: April 08, 2014, 10:14:33 PM »
how about this: That's pure BS.
So lets hear. Suggest one
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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #84 on: April 08, 2014, 10:15:10 PM »
It's the truth. Highest OTD rate/worst chinuch. Care to suggest a city that is worse?

Could be they just need to "hit bottom." Maybe they'd be ready to learn some chasidus?

And don't point to Crown Heights to try to disprove me. They need to learn chasidus over there too.

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #85 on: April 08, 2014, 10:15:52 PM »
Could be they just need to "hit bottom." Maybe they'd be ready to learn some chasidus?

And don't point to Crown Heights to try to disprove me. They need to learn chasidus over there too.
So currently the best chinuch plan is let them hit bottom?

Is that why Lakewood was so against opening a center for OTD kids?
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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #86 on: April 08, 2014, 10:16:39 PM »
So lets hear. Suggest one
wtvr why pick Lakewood? It happens to be a very large growing town.
Monsey or flatbush today have nowhere near as many litvishe children growing up there.

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #87 on: April 08, 2014, 10:16:47 PM »
So currently the best chinuch plan is let them hit bottom?

That's not what I said.

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #88 on: April 08, 2014, 10:17:39 PM »
So currently the best chinuch plan is let them hit bottom?

Is that why Lakewood was so against opening a center for OTD kids?
what?!
You mean a centralized hang out joint to smoke up, hook up etc?

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Re: Ani Maamin Foundation
« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2014, 10:18:00 PM »
wtvr why pick Lakewood? It happens to be a very large growing town.
Yes I know. I hear that from every person I meet in Lakewood. From all spectrums of yiddishkeit. The one thing they have in common is everyone says "Lakewood is so big, so diverse"
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