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Dan 1, Dan 2, SpillTheBeans, e-Lawyer, Eli, lfas25, RJ898, gavhaller, daganster, Something Fishy, Yehoshua, Marco Polo, @Yehuda, @Yehuda - Grand Wailea, Wizmanison's Maui TR 2018
Sam28 Maui TR Nov 2020 Covid 19, CGR


Related DDF Threads:
-Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
-Kauai Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread
-Lanai, Molokai, and Niihau, Hawaii Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Maui and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Maui Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

Here it is for FREE.

There is also an app version available for both iOS and Android for $7.99. The app has all the content of the book, plus navigation, offline maps, and links when applicable. You don't really need both, but some people find it useful to have the book while planning (much easier to use) and the app while on the island (for the maps and navigation).

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep Shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping Shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.

Note that you may run into this issue even if you leave the islands Thursday afternoon, as it may already be considered Shabbos. Ask your LOR.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Kahului, and is designated OGG. The are two other small airports - Kapalua (JHM) in the West Maui Mountains and Hana (HNM) in the east.
You could fly directly from the mainland to OGG from (bold is seasonal only):

ANC (AS)
BLI (AS, Allegiant Air)
DEN (UA)
DFW (AA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
ORD (UA)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
SAN (AS, HA)
SEA (AS, HA)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
SMF (AS)
YEG (WestJet)
YVR (AC, WestJet)
YYC (AC, WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to OGG from there.

Hawaiian and Go fly interisland from HNL, KOA, and LIH, Go, and Island Air flies from HNL. Mokulele flies from HNL and KOA, as well as to Kapalua (JHM), Hana (HNM), Molokai (MKK), Lanai (LNY), and Waimea-Kohala (MUE) on the Big Island.

Alternatively, you can also use 5k AA, 6k UA or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. You can use 15k DL pesos for a RT interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.
HA has several tiers, similar to DL, the lowest tier is the only one that's available using partner miles, but with HA miles you can purchase tickets that are otherwise unavailable for additional miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Maui. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

Hertz has Gold Choice at the airport. According to National's website there is no Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but according to reports there is one, albeit sparse to the point of uselessness. Also check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try. Costco Travel very often has great prices too.

Make sure to check your reservations often, as prices tend to drop a few weeks before pickup. If it does, make a new reservation and only then cancel your original one.

There's nothing like a convertible on Maui (especially on the Road to Hana). A 4WD is not really necessary, however some people feel more comfortable in one on the 'other side' of the Road to Hana and the hairy parts of Kahekill Hwy (east of the blowhole).

Air Maui will mail you a nice free paper map of the island - click here to request it. It usually takes a week or two to arrive.


Where to stay:

The two most popular area to stay are on the West side (Lahaina, Ka'anapali, Kapalua) and the South side (Wailea, Kihei), due to the better weather there. The South side could sometimes get windy in the winter, though. There are also many places to rent Upcountry (Kula, Pukalani), where the air is cooler and the views smashing (but farther from the beach).

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Hyatt RegencyWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteHyatt Category 5. The Hyatt advertises having Kosher food. In the past, these meals came from Oahu Kosher (Chabad in Honolulu). However, in Dec 2016 they claimed the meals were prepared by the Chabad of Maui, while in actuality they were prepared by a reform temple (story explained at the bottom of this post), which is still true as of Feb 2017.
AndazSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHyatt category 6. A favorite among DDFers, although award space isn't easy to come by.
Grand WaileaSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteHilton - 80k-95k depending on season. Reminiscent of the GHK in Kauai with sprawling grounds and more pools than you count, located on the beautiful Wailea Beach.
SheratonWest side (Lahaina)WebsiteSPG category 6.
WestinWest side (Lahaina) WebsiteSPG category 6.
FairmontSouth side (Wailea)WebsiteAll suite hotel.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
HomeAway Maui
VRBO Maui
Airbnb Maui


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Maui, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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Beach 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Beach 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Beach 3Area 3Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Maui. Check the Maui Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Sliding SandsHaleakalaAn amazing hike into the crater from the upper visitors center. Quite challenging due to the constant downhill on a loose cinder trail. Amazing views unlike anything on the island, and no shade. The entire trail takes all day, but most people take it only partway in. Go as far as you like and remember that the way back is a constant uphill and will take twice as long. Bring lots of water.
Pipiwai TrailHanaOne of the nicest trail on Maui. A bit past Hana, just before the Seven Sacred Pools. The hike goes through the jungle, past banyan trees and a 200-foot waterfall, and through a bamboo forest (this is the highlight for most people). The trail ends at the amazing 400-foot Waimoku Falls. Give this hike a couple of hours.
Lava FieldSouth MauiAt the end of the road, past the Ahihi-Kinau Natural Area Reserve. This is an amazing and relatively difficult hike. You will be walking on sharp, loose lava rocks the entire time, but the views are smashing and the terrain interesting. Great views of a particularly wild stretch of ocean, interesting pools (not swimmable), and ends in a glorious (and generally empty) beach if you brave it till the end. Do the loop - hug the coast on the way out, and take the Kings Highway back. See Maui Revealed for all the details.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursA few companies offer this; Blue Hawaiian is generally considered to be the best. There are different routes to choose from - keep in mind that the ones going to Haleakala don't actually go into the crater. This is not as recommended on Maui as it is on other islands, since the entire island is pretty much easily accessible so you won't go anywhere remote or extremely amazing.
Road to HanaAbsolute must-do. Don't get scared off by misinformation and go all the way around - in a way the backside is even more spectacular that the more popular first half. You do NOT need a special car or 4WD; any regular car could do it happily. Best way to do the road is to spend the night in Hana, as that will leave the most time to explore the thousand different things along the road. If you're only going for the day, make sure to be on the road EARLY (7-7:30 the latest).
Haleakala SunriseA spectacular event that is not to be missed. You will wake up at the witching hour, it will be freezing cold, and it will be absolutely worth it. Be there at least 45 minutes before the listed sunrise - the earlier the better; they close the upper parking lot when it fills up and you'll have to park at the lower visitor center lot. Dress warmly and bring lots of jackets and blankets. Take the trail to Pakaoao (White Hill) and you'll have the sunrise to yourself (mostly, at least).
'Ohe'o Gulch (Seven Sacred Pools)Also known as the Seven Sacred Pools, this is in the Hana side of Haleakala National Park. Save your receipt from sunrise; it's valid for three days and will get you in to the pools too. Short hike from the parking lot to the pools, and it's absolutely stunning. Will be absolutely PACKED from around 1PM and on (but still worth it). If you're staying in Hana go early in the morning and it'll be mostly empty.
Snorkling Molokini craterCountless boat companies will take you out to Molokini. It has the best underwater visibility in the state, sometimes over 100 feet. Somewhat overrated and over-touristed, but generally considered to be worth it.
Kayaking
Biking
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises


Shopping:
  • Costco in Kahului has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Lapperts ice cream store

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #4860 on: May 05, 2022, 11:04:50 AM »
We enjoyed the exotic fruit tasting tour at Ono Farms in Hana.  Bring your own knife and ask them to use that. 

https://www.onofarms.com/

Also visit Red Sand Pocket Beach in Hana. It's in my 2018 TR.
when i went in jan 2020, they didn't do tours anymore but they had a stand down the block from the hotel with tastings.
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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #4861 on: May 07, 2022, 11:06:25 PM »
United has suspended the direct flight from EWR :(  Looks like till July 1st. for now
@Dan Can you get a comment from United why they did it?

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« Reply #4862 on: May 07, 2022, 11:08:35 PM »
United has suspended the direct flight from EWR :(  Looks like till July 1st. for now
@Dan Can you get a comment from United why they did it?
https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-route-suspensions-june-2022/

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« Reply #4863 on: May 15, 2022, 05:50:56 PM »
Finishing trip in Maui. We found the Marriott (Wailea Beach) to be very dated - the rooms desperately need an update. Hyatt regency was great and much better vibes.

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #4864 on: May 20, 2022, 07:11:07 PM »
Just returned from a trip to Maui May 8-16.  Will be writing up a Trip Report.  Last time I wrote one was quite some time and added pictures via Flickr.  I see that has changed some.  Anybody care to update me a link to how to upload?

Will be putting out details of itinerary.  Posting from an active Bubby and Zaydie point of view

Briefly:
Flights
Turkish Airlines 15000 miles RT economy that's a story in itself.
EWR-DEN-OGG   (2 1/2 hr layover)
Return
OGG-SFO-EWR    (50 minute layover)

Paid upgrade economy plus one leg of each route.  DH very sweetly asked if they could move us up to a closer row.  Got economy plus and exit rows for the legs we didn't pay for.

Luggage:
Did not automatically get the free MileagePlus bags.  Had to do at the airport.  In EWR took a long time but got it done.
In OGG lady was really nice and did it right away.

Hotel:
Marriott Residence Inn in Wailea.  301,000 points 8 nights.  Points actually went down after the devaluation for a period of time so canceled original 340,000 one and rebooked.
We found it suited our needs nicely.  Nice location.  Fine pool.  Not a resort facility but we needed the kitchen facilities more and they provide many kosher items on their breakfast menu.  Dated rooms.  We got upgraded to a 1 BR instead of the studio.
By the way Chabad moved to Wailea and it is 1.5 miles away from this hotel.  We were the first shabbos at their new place.
Gotta say that was probably one of my highlights.  Rabbi Mendy, Reb Mushky and their children were lovely.
While there weren't enough people for a minyan it was great to daven and meet new people.  They even put together a nice little kiddush even though it was their first week in that house.
Gorgeous house, view of the beach.

Car Rental:
Costco with Avis.  Booked and cancelled over 20 times.  Originally it was 1200 for a mid size SVU (like Rogue).  At one point it went down to 425 and thats what we ended with.
We got a Kia Sorrento which had 4WD and it drove great.  Not as high clearance as a Jeep but gave us more comfort to drive the West Maui loop and back roads to Hana.

Weather:
The prior week had severe storms from Kona that literally took out a section of the road between Kaupo and Kipahulu.
We were told by the local facebook group (Road to Hana) the roads were closed.  They were for a few days until they closed off the broken section and made a slight detour.  When you got out of Oheo Gulch there was a road sign saying local traffic only and must have 4WD.

Over the top West Maui
Way scarier than Road to Hana.  After this, RTH was a joke.  Beautiful scenery but one way very narrow sections with blind blind curves.  DH drove this one. 
RTH over 2 days stayed  Hana Maui resort
Took this slow.  Left Paia at 11:30.  Basically this was awesome very few people on the road. Stopped in Mana foods looking for Kosher Gluten free items.  Jackpot.  They even have a large selection of Katz gluten free cakes and Udi breads and other brands.  I brought all my stuff from home cuz couldnt take a chance.  We let slower cars pass so we could soak in the scenery.  Had no issues getting into any pullouts or the tiny ones on the one way bridges.  Got lots of shots of different waterfalls, beautiful coastline views, not many fruit stands open.  Many of the waterfalls detailed in the Revealed book and some of the other items are no longer open to public.  Sliding sands horseback riding no longer available.  Blue Pool no longer.
Seems many people have complained about locals driving recklessly and fast because they do not like tourists hogging their roads.  BH we did not have any of that experience.  We let people pass and were looking out ahead of the one lane bridges so we had clearance.
Booked reservations to the Black Sand Beach and that was beautiful.  Did about a mile of the hike of the coastal trails until DH had enough. Gorgeous vistas, blowholes, mix of lava rock, greenery and wild ocean.  Nice lava tube.
It did not rain AT ALL during the RTH.  So lucky
Drove to Hana Bay and saw what seemed like a sign for the Red Sand Pocket Beach but the trail looked sandy without good footing and I know I ignored the signs saying danger keep out.  So I took a picture from a distance of what I think it was.

Overnight in Hana Maui Resort
Booked on Hyatt 25000 points.  These were going for over 700 a night.  Dated room we had garden one did not get upgraded I think the place was booked solid.  Good enough.  Very large room  Bedroom with a living area, kitchen bar area with a mini fridge.  We asked for a microwave and they provided.  Tub, shower...etc.  A nice lanai to sit on.
The grounds are really pretty and very laid back.  No restaurant on site, no place to get coffee except the mini espresso maker in the room.
The infinity pool was great. Had a nice swim after watching sunrise over the water.  Not a soul there.  They have an exercise room, tennis courts, a spa but we were there so short.  There was NO AC in the room.  You had to open the windows to get air, there were 2 ceiling fans.  It was comfortable.  No TV knew about that one.
Checkout is 11 asked for late they said 12 only.  We just checked out early the next morning and headed to PipiWai Trail.

Pipiwai Trail
One of the highlights of our trip.  Great trail.  Conditions were great except for some slippery rocks toward the end of the hike by the big waterfall.  You get to see two waterfalls, bridges, a bamboo forest,  wooden platforms to walk on, a creek and just really nice.  2 miles each way.  Took us 3 hours to hike it.  There are alot of steps along the way.

Oheo Gulch
I either missed something here or it is extremely overgrown.  There is a 1/2 mile trail going the other direction from Pipiwai Trail.  Took that and saw the bottom part of the waterfall and some really smashing rough waters.  But as I walked up the path, it is fenced off and so overgrown I could not get pictures.  Did I miss something here and go in a different entrance?

Oh by the way, we got the senior lifetime pass for $80.  Used it for this and Haleakala.  That way wasn't tied into doing Haleakala within 3 days of Hana if it didnt work out.


Back Road from Hana.
I had no issues with RTH either front or back end.    I know it has been said you don't need a 4WD and can drive this road on a Mustang.  I hear ya, but from a Bubby perspective and with the roads in disrepair from the storms we felt more comfortable with a 4WD with higher clearance so as not to take the bottom off the car.
Remember trying to do Polihale on Kauai with a Mustang and DH quit after all the moon craters and we never made it through.  Also Mahalepu at the southern end of Kauai so pitted we ended up just walking the whole trail.
You just have to do what is comfortable for yourself.

Saw waterfalls, drove to the Laulima Farm Stand interesting place.  No garbage, but she has a compost bin :).  No Splenda but she has organic sugar.  Found many local places didnt carry any artificial sweeteners.

Huialoha Church
This one needs 4WD. Even then I thought we were toast.  Revealed book says great view of tortured lava rocks with water twisting around.  Also said it had bathrooms :).  Chain is locked but no worries go and open it.   So we did and drove down.
First part not so bad until you hit the moon crater potholes.  Got to the end..Had to turn around in place.  Got to see the lava rocks.  By the way after all that the bathrooms were locked :).

Drove the rest of the back road.  Unimproved part had also many blind turns.  These are really blind.  You can't see around the bend to see what is coming up the road.  One lane roads.  We were pretty lucky and didnt have to back down the road.

Great scenery...cows, wind turbines, rough seas, view of Haleakala. 
Will continue after shabbos


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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #4865 on: May 20, 2022, 08:00:12 PM »

Look forward to reading the rest of your TR.

Please compare against Kauai and TBI, as you've been there before.

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Re: Maui Master Thread
« Reply #4866 on: May 23, 2022, 12:34:57 AM »
Posted a very Lengthy TR in the Trip report section.
not sure how to link it to the master thread TR section.

Lots of pictures.  hope it is not too much spam.
Enjoy.