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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #80 on: April 24, 2014, 06:36:56 PM »
The Jesuits are a Catholic order. I think they would qualify to be called aggressive in their approach. This why you can’t just throw around the term “cult”.
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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #81 on: April 24, 2014, 06:38:32 PM »
The Jesuits are a Catholic order. I think they would qualify to be called aggressive in their approach. This why you can’t just throw around the term “cult”.
Agreed. I very well remember the thread where some posters called Satmar a cult.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #82 on: April 24, 2014, 07:49:20 PM »
So Christianity is a cult?
"In our battle against the missionaries we are even more motivated. We see the saving of each and every Jewish soul from Christian cults as a sacred mission. This is what drives Yad L’Achim’s relentless efforts against the mission and its members."
I would guess that is more due to translation than anything else
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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #83 on: April 24, 2014, 09:03:28 PM »
also, the missionaries (our "version" of that term) in many cases, use sly methods, generally hiding who they really are until the person is heavily involved.

they also target jews that are obviously traditional or religious. when i lived in NY, they came knocking on my door. when i pointed out that i had a mezuzah on my door so why did they bother... they didnt have a good answer.

a few years ago we had a sukkah on campus, the missionaries specifically set up right next to the sukkah (which is not a busy area of campus) to target the jewish students coming into the sukkah.

when i was in elementary, my class went on a field trip (15 religous girls wearing uniforms of long sleeve shirts and long skirts in the summer) we were in 3rd or 4th grade. missionaries came up to us and started handing out bibles. i remeber this clearly bec my usual calm teacher really let them have it


there is hundreds of thousands of dollars being poured into the campaign to convert Jews. u can search for books on "how to preach to the jew" and stuff like that

and lets not even get started on "messianic jews"

one more point - a lady actually told me that jews need to believe in j c or they would burn and she agrees with torturing Jews to make this happen. but since its illegal.......

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #84 on: April 24, 2014, 09:47:49 PM »
CV, I'm beginning to think that you're a missionary yourself  ::)

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2014, 10:20:42 PM »
CV, I'm beginning to think that you're a missionary yourself  ::)

If CV is a missionary then he is a pretty lousy one, thank G-d. (And in case you don't know, that is a compliment.)

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #86 on: April 24, 2014, 11:31:12 PM »
Are all good Christians missionaries?   

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #87 on: April 24, 2014, 11:38:36 PM »
a lady actually told me that jews need to believe in j c or they would burn
CV, do you believe this too?
We believe h*ll is for the evil among non-Jews.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2014, 11:52:29 PM »
CV, do you believe this too?
We believe h*ll is for the evil among non-Jews.

Satmar Lady, everything has a "shier". Please go back to do what you're good at, diapering your children and cooking supper.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #89 on: April 25, 2014, 12:02:11 AM »
Satmar Lady, everything has a "shier". Please go back to do what you're good at, diapering your children and cooking supper.
You missed the boat; but then jumped in the water!
 

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #90 on: April 25, 2014, 12:03:03 AM »
Satmar Lady, everything has a "shier". Please go back to do what you're good at, diapering your children and cooking supper.

That is hateful and misogynistic and a chilul Hashem. How can you write words like that? Even if you were joking? It is painful to read.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #91 on: April 25, 2014, 12:23:42 AM »
Satmar Lady, everything has a "shier". Please go back to do what you're good at, diapering your children and cooking supper.
I pity your wife.
I know exactly what I'm doing and what my shier is, thank you. And if you'll think a little harder instead of putting people down you'll know too. 

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #92 on: April 25, 2014, 12:24:12 AM »
If CV is a missionary then he is a pretty lousy one, thank G-d. (And in case you don't know, that is a compliment.)
You just insulted me with your compliment.  :)
I have done mission work in the past. A big part of mission work now with the Catholic Church is our youth groups. They go to different states/countries where help is needed. My one daughter has done this many times.
Are all good Christians missionaries?
I guess I would have to say yes. They should promote the word of Our Lord and help others in need.
CV, do you believe this too?
No and I don’t know anyone that does.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #93 on: April 25, 2014, 12:27:16 AM »
I have done mission work in the past. A big part of mission work now with the Catholic Church is our youth groups. They go to different states/countries where help is needed. My one daughter has done this many times.I guess I would have to say yes. They should promote the word of Our Lord and help others in need.

The bottom line is, we have two completely different ideas for the same word. For you, the word means helping people and spreading faith. For us, the word means deceit, lies, the destruction of families and our way of life.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #94 on: April 25, 2014, 12:33:42 AM »
For us, the word means deceit, lies, the destruction of families and our way of life.
How about missionary work done in countries that have nothing to do with Jews? Good or bad?
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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #95 on: April 25, 2014, 12:42:53 AM »
I pity your wife.
I know exactly what I'm doing and what my shier is, thank you. And if you'll think a little harder instead of putting people down you'll know too.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. "Yisroel af al pi s'chotu, Yisroel hu". Please forgive me for my words.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #96 on: April 25, 2014, 01:11:23 AM »
Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. "Yisroel af al pi s'chotu, Yisroel hu". Please forgive me for my words.

You didn't mean to offend? What was your intention? I think you should explain what you were thinking.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #97 on: April 25, 2014, 01:16:38 AM »
How about missionary work done in countries that have nothing to do with Jews? Good or bad?

You mean like Korea which went from 99% Buddhist to 99% Christian in the past couple of generations?

Doesn't bother me. At least they're being taught monotheism and the general concept of a future Messianic redemption. I am basing my response on the words of Maimonides. But if I am to be consistent, Maimonides mentions Islam in the same sentence, so I will also have to also say that I feel the same way about Islam as well.

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #98 on: April 25, 2014, 09:20:52 AM »
Been traveling yesterday and missed this thread. Though being in a car for 7 hours and not being able to listen to music we found entertainment by listening to Rabbi Emmanuel Schochet's lecture called 'missionary impossible'.

Can be found here: http://chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/302730/jewish/Missionary-Impossible.htm

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Re: frum jew in baltimore revealed as a christian missionary
« Reply #99 on: April 25, 2014, 09:29:18 AM »
2 1/2+ hours? Think I will pass.  :)
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