REB SHAYALA KARESTEIRER

[Dan]

Not a d'oraysa, all been discussed

Just curious if people that have this minhag have exceptions for that.

[yelped]

Wow never heard that. I don't think his einiklech follow this, it's said that only the Liska einiklech do. (And the Yismach Moshe's einiklech don't since he regretted and changed his minhag sof yamov)

That's right. The Kossoner Einiklech all know about it. The reason the Liska Einiklech still keep it is because R'Hershele did not change even though he was told his Rebbe changed his Minhag, and even though he was meikel in general with everything else (his whole mehalech towards Hidden was pure Ahavas Yisroel, as can be see by the stories of his talmid R'Shayala).

Lechem mishneh?

One of the issues raised by the Munkatcher Rav, others have teshuvos explaining it (iirc, Shilchan Melachim was one sefer given out by a Ruv who was a Chasid of R'Shayala).

[yelped]

Just curious if people that have this minhag have exceptions for that.

As I mentioned, some who kept this Minhag to a degree, did eat just a Kezayis by every YT and Shabbos meal, and did not wash on Chol HaMoed. Others ate only the Kezaisim by the sedarim and that was it until Achron Shel Pesach.

IINM it's discussed already in the Rishonim or early Acharonim, can double check soon.

Would be nice if you can quote some here. I researched a bit a few years ago, but don't recall everything exactly, and don't have seforim handy.

[EliJelly]

Would be nice if you can quote some here. I researched a bit a few years ago, but don't recall everything exactly, and don't have seforim handy.

Earliest I see in Halacha right now is the שערי תשובה סוף ת׳׳ס, from his language it doesn't sound it was a minhag mentioned any earlier, otherwise he'd quote them.

[chff]

ok this thread went off the rails.....

[yelped]

ok this thread went off the rails.....

The thread is titled REB SHAYALA KARESTEIRER.

[yelped]

Earliest I see in Halacha right now is the שערי תשובה סוף ת׳׳ס, from his language it doesn't sound it was a minhag mentioned any earlier, otherwise he'd quote them.

They just reprinted the Ohr Hayoshor VaTov (history of R'Hershele of Liska) and this is in there (thank you ZBerman Books for having it in stock). @Dan Apparently, some Chabad Chassidim had this Minhag, too.

[chff]

site will be up soon FlyToKerestir.com

Website is up

2022 Kerestir primer:

Yurzeit is Wednesday May 4
Closest airports are KSC/DEB/BUD, BUD has the most options

Car Rentals:
To drive on Hungarian Motorways the car needs to have a "vignette" (toll stickers). Locally rented cars should come with one
*WAZE USERS* add "Vignette HU - E-matrica országos" under "Tolls & HOV passes", otherwise you will be routed avoiding the highway
Make note of speeding cameras, violations can be as high as 300k HUF (~$837 USD)
Some might ask for an "International Driving Permit", and some countries (like Poland), driving without one is as driving unlicensed
One-way rentals returning in countries have a hefty drop fee

Generally it takes about 3 hours to/from BUD airport so you have to overnight (those coming to/from USA). The direct charter is without overnight, 32 hours hours EWR>EWR

COVID RESTRICTIONS: (please note when transiting other countries to check their rules as well)

Hungary: The word "Covid" is in the history books already

Those transiting:
Poland: Covid is over as well, no masks required on LOT Polish
Germany: Proof of vaccinations or 48hr covid test. Lufthansa (German law) requires FFP2/KN95. To access a lounge you need a 24hr covid test
Switzerland: To enter the Schengen Area thru Switzerland you must be fully vaccinated within the past 270 days. exiting thru Switzerland is ok. AS OF MAY 2 ALL BORDER RESTRICTIONS ARE ENDING. Masks are NOT required in Switzerland/Swiss Airlines
Austria: A PCR 72hr or Rapid 48hr is required to enter Austria. Austrian (Austria law) requires a N95/KN95 mask
France: A PCR 72hr or Rapid 48hr is required to enter France

Returning to USA:
Everyone over the age of 2 needs a negative Covid test within a day before the flight (not limited to 24 hours)

[WonderingYid]

Make note of speeding cameras, violations can be as high as 300k HUF (~$837 USD)

And I thought the speed cameras in NYC were bad...

[Joel]

And I thought the speed cameras in NYC were bad...

IIRC its only at one spot along the road from BUD to Kerestir

[chff]

Drama avoided

https://twitter.com/vmsalama/status/1519860858360369152

[Ekay]

Germany: Proof of vaccinations or 48hr covid test. Lufthansa (German law) requires FFP2/KN95. To access a lounge you need a 24hr covid test

Returning to USA:
Everyone over the age of 2 needs a negative Covid test within a day before the flight (not limited to 24 hours)

For Germany is a Covid pdf good enough or also need vaccine card?

To return to us do I need pcr or antigen is good? Any idea where I can get a lab in BUD that will give results immediately? Or where I can get a PDF?

[Joel]

Any idea where I can get a lab in BUD that will give results immediately?

https://www.bud.hu/en/testing_center

[Saulius]

For Germany is a Covid pdf good enough or also need vaccine card?

To return to us do I need pcr or antigen is good? Any idea where I can get a lab in BUD that will give results immediately? Or where I can get a PDF?

See: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php 

For Germany, if you are not an EU citizen and not vaccinated, they will not let you in unless you have an urgent and valid reason. Otherwise, a PDF with negative PCR or anti-gen tests suffices for transit for onward travel.   If you will fly back from ie. Budapest back to Germany - inside Europe / Schengen there is no passport control, and no covid test required. For the US citizens returning back to the US, anti-gen tests suffice.

You can get a anti-gen test in Budapest Airport with results in 15 min: https://bud.umedhub.com/

[Ekay]

See: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php 

For Germany, if you are not an EU citizen and not vaccinated, they will not let you in unless you have an urgent and valid reason. Otherwise, a PDF with negative PCR or anti-gen tests suffices for transit for onward travel.   If you will fly back from ie. Budapest back to Germany - inside Europe / Schengen there is no passport control, and no covid test required. For the US citizens returning back to the US, anti-gen tests suffice.

You can get a anti-gen test in Budapest Airport with results in 15 min: https://bud.umedhub.com/

So to clarify if I’m flying EWR to BUD with a stop in MUC a negative PCR should be good enough correct?

Now for the return flight from BUD to EWR with a stop in FRA do I need something?

[Saulius]

So to clarify if I’m flying EWR to BUD with a stop in MUC a negative PCR should be good enough correct?

Now for the return flight from BUD to EWR with a stop in FRA do I need something?

Correct, negative PCR should be sufficient for a stopover in MUC (airport transit). For your return flight, you can stopover in FRA and go out of airport - nothing is needed. For your return flight, only the US would require negative test results - antigen 24 hours prior to departure should be sufficent.

[Ekay]

Correct, negative PCR should be sufficient for a stopover in MUC (airport transit). For your return flight, you can stopover in FRA and go out of airport - nothing is needed. For your return flight, only the US would require negative test results - antigen 24 hours prior to departure should be sufficent.

According to the united travel ready page I need a pcr for the BUD- FRA flight.

[Saulius]

According to the united travel ready page I need a pcr for the BUD- FRA flight.

Looking at:

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/faqs/EN/topics/civil-protection/coronavirus/coronavirus-faqs.html
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/faqs/EN/topics/civil-protection/coronavirus/travel-restrictions-border-control/I-rules-on-travel-to-germany/what-pandemic-related-restrictions-apply-to-air-sea-and-overland-travel.html;jsessionid=3C237FD7ED3801F355A9EFE6020D3321.2_cid373

You should definitely be okay with an anti-gen, as long as the test was 24 hours prior to arrival in Germany from another EU country part of Schengen. There is no passport control flying in from within the Schengen region -- so if there would be enforcement, it would be the Airline on check-in.

[Ekay]

Website is up

2022 Kerestir primer:

Yurzeit is Wednesday May 4
Closest airports are KSC/DEB/BUD, BUD has the most options

Car Rentals:
To drive on Hungarian Motorways the car needs to have a "vignette" (toll stickers). Locally rented cars should come with one
*WAZE USERS* add "Vignette HU - E-matrica országos" under "Tolls & HOV passes", otherwise you will be routed avoiding the highway
Make note of speeding cameras, violations can be as high as 300k HUF (~$837 USD)
Some might ask for an "International Driving Permit", and some countries (like Poland), driving without one is as driving unlicensed
One-way rentals returning in countries have a hefty drop fee

Generally it takes about 3 hours to/from BUD airport so you have to overnight (those coming to/from USA). The direct charter is without overnight, 32 hours hours EWR>EWR

COVID RESTRICTIONS: (please note when transiting other countries to check their rules as well)

Hungary: The word "Covid" is in the history books already

Those transiting:
Poland: Covid is over as well, no masks required on LOT Polish
Germany: Proof of vaccinations or 48hr covid test. Lufthansa (German law) requires FFP2/KN95. To access a lounge you need a 24hr covid test
Switzerland: To enter the Schengen Area thru Switzerland you must be fully vaccinated within the past 270 days. exiting thru Switzerland is ok. AS OF MAY 2 ALL BORDER RESTRICTIONS ARE ENDING. Masks are NOT required in Switzerland/Swiss Airlines
Austria: A PCR 72hr or Rapid 48hr is required to enter Austria. Austrian (Austria law) requires a N95/KN95 mask
France: A PCR 72hr or Rapid 48hr is required to enter France

Returning to USA:
Everyone over the age of 2 needs a negative Covid test within a day before the flight (not limited to 24 hours)

Update: No mask required in Muc, and Lufthansa did not ask for a pcr nor a mask to access the lounge.

Flew muc to bud on LH they gave me a regular surgical mask to put on but the did not enforce at all. I sat without a mask the whole flight.

[Ekay]

Seems like Germany is putting Covid into the history books as well.