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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2014, 04:25:56 PM »
First I'm hearing of it.
I mean there have been some people that learned Tanya with others, but otherwise that's a bunch of hooey.
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I'm not Chabad, but from being around them for quite some time in the summer and on a shabbos, USUALLY the extent of it was trying to get us to learn tanya with them.
With every conversation though, some fascinating (unbelievable) stories of the rebbe would always come up. As well as how chabad does great work.....
 I wouldn't really consider that trying to "lure" us in.
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2014, 04:27:25 PM »
Some folks are willing to accept any L"H they hear about Chabad as truth, the juicier the better.
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2014, 04:29:33 PM »
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I'm not Chabad, but from being around them for quite some time in the summer and on a shabbos, USUALLY the extent of it was trying to get us to learn tanya with them.
With every conversation though, some fascinating (unbelievable) stories of the rebbe would always come up. As well as how chabad does great work.....
 I wouldn't really consider that trying to lure us in.

Because nobody's trying to "lure" in anyone already frum.
Learning Tanya or a sicha isn't trying to lure someone in either.  They happen to be enjoyable to learn with a different flavor, at least it was for me coming from a litvak elementary school to a chabad high school.
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2014, 04:31:51 PM »
I too, am not Chabad but many of my relatives and friends are... I have yet to see such a thing happen. My experience has only been positive non-missionary type of relationships.

As an aside, I work for a Kiruv organization and so many of our students come through Chabad first... The work they do is incredible and there are never hard feelings with Chabad about "stealing" students the way there are with other organizations. It's very much a let's work together to make people frum attitude.

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2014, 04:37:23 PM »
Because nobody's trying to "lure" in anyone already frum.
Learning Tanya or a sicha isn't trying to lure someone in either.  They happen to be enjoyable to learn with a different flavor, at least it was for me coming from a litvak elementary school to a chabad high school.
Just to clarify. That's what I meant. I don't feel that learning tanya is because they're trying to be "missionary"

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2014, 04:39:05 PM »
+1
I'm not Chabad, but from being around them for quite some time in the summer and on a shabbos, USUALLY the extent of it was trying to get us to learn tanya with them.
With every conversation though, some fascinating (unbelievable) stories of the rebbe would always come up. As well as how chabad does great work.....
 I wouldn't really consider that trying to lure us in.
Trying to get someone to learn Chassidus ≠ trying to make someone Chabad.

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2014, 05:11:12 PM »
I think this conversion is moving into the locked Chabad thread....

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2014, 05:12:11 PM »
Yes chabad tries to get people to learn chassidus.
But not to convert

When there were satmar or yerushalmi or others that became chabad,  the Rebbe told them to keep their levush.

I just find it interesting that they're told to stay away from parades and other things.  But when they're traveling and need chabad.... All of the sudden hakol beseder
When they have a relative out in the boondocks,  chabad is once again in the good books

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2014, 05:15:29 PM »
Yes chabad tries to get people to learn chassidus.
But not to convert

When there were satmar or yerushalmi or others that became chabad,  the Rebbe told them to keep their levush.

I just find it interesting that they're told to stay away from parades and other things.  But when they're traveling and need chabad.... All of the sudden hakol beseder
When they have a relative out in the boondocks,  chabad is once again in the good books


+1M
And not even talking about those who come to eat a meal at a Chabad house and sit there bashing Chabad as they eat (seen with my own eyes)...
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2014, 05:52:55 PM »
Chabad believe that the rest of klal Yisroel are missing out on what they call the "penimius hatorah". If they really think that everyone else is seriously lacking in Torah and yiddishkeit, the next logical conclusion is, that a chabadsker that is a real ohev Yisroel should attempt to be mekarev kerovim.
This theory is backed up by years of circumstantial evidence.
They clearly have a mission of " uforatzto " etc to spread their version of chassidus... They talk about it all the time. Even here on Ddf! Those people who offer to learn "chassidus" with you are just doing uforatzto.

If this what chabad teaches and you believe in it, why deny it... Embrace it!
I personally respect the sentiment. But I also respect satmars right to say no thanks.

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2014, 05:54:04 PM »
Lol. And people call Chabad chasidim brainwashed.
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2014, 05:56:37 PM »
Lol. And people call Chabad chasidim brainwashed.
OK... Not doing this all over again. Peace out and good Shabbos!
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2014, 05:59:51 PM »
Good idea. Have a good shabbos.
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2014, 06:04:36 PM »
Chabad believe that the rest of klal Yisroel are missing out on what they call the "penimius hatorah". If they really think that everyone else is seriously lacking in Torah and yiddishkeit, the next logical conclusion is, that a chabadsker that is a real ohev Yisroel should attempt to be mekarev kerovim.
This theory is backed up by years of circumstantial evidence.
They clearly have a mission of " uforatzto " etc to spread their version of chassidus... They talk about it all the time. Even here on Ddf! Those people who offer to learn "chassidus" with you are just doing uforatzto.

If this what chabad teaches and you believe in it, why deny it... Embrace it!
I personally respect the sentiment. But I also respect satmars right to say no thanks.

We are all saying that chabad encourages people to learn chassidus.  No one is denying it.

But that has nothing to do with converting people.  Bec u can learn chassidus and still be a misnagid,  satmar.....

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2014, 06:05:50 PM »


I just find it interesting that they're told to stay away from parades and other things.  But when they're traveling and need chabad.... All of the sudden hakol beseder
When they have a relative out in the boondocks,  chabad is once again in the good books

When I was little in school I use to feel like that when teachers would put down non religious people in certain ways but then it was a whole big event when they came touring the building and were donating money. 


IMO, There is nothing necessarily wrong with keeping separate in some instances if that's how you feel. The problem is the looking down on others unless it's convenient for you. 
"Not all who wander are lost"