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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2014, 06:10:27 PM »
We are just trying to help the people that think נשתכחה תורת הבש"ט to let them know we found it :-)

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2014, 06:15:13 PM »
I just find it interesting that they're told to stay away from parades and other things.  But when they're traveling and need chabad.... All of the sudden hakol beseder
When they have a relative out in the boondocks,  chabad is once again in the good books
Im not answering for satmar,  but in this instance,  what you're saying   doesn't make much sense.

The Kol Koreh was meant for the kids FWIU.  They don't want thier kids getting influences from chabad.  (and maybe thry suspect luring,  as others here have posted. )

That problem doesn't really exist with a normal  stable adult who already found his path over the last 20+ years of his life (hopefully).  (obviously we all have nisyonos,  but this isn't exactly a nisayaon)

I don't have a good comparison,  but I'll try. 

Would you want your  kids playing with the goyim on the block? Leaning all the curse words,  etc?

When they get older,  they  go to work,  and many times thier surrounded by goyim.  We hope by that age their hashkafas are already well built and very strong.  And because there's no alternative,  they go wrong with goyim.

I'm not comparing chabad to goyim. I'm comparing a different scenario for you to realize that  adult life and childlife aaren't the same -  influentialey.   

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2014, 06:22:01 PM »
What churnbabychurd said is correct. Though the letter should be saying that exactly. And not what it says....

And to Dan, which other sect had a Mandel Vechter story? You make it sound as a simple flat lie...

Satmar learned a lesson once, and that was enough. Again I agree the letter was written by a hypocrite, but the point is as churnbabychurn said.
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2014, 06:26:31 PM »
Quote "eer vilt as aiyer kinder zul zein azoi vi zei?"

Hell ya...

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2014, 06:32:51 PM »
What churnbabychurd said is correct. Though the letter should be saying that exactly. And not what it says....

And to Dan, which other sect had a Mandel Vechter story? You make it sound as a simple flat lie...

Satmar learned a lesson once, and that was enough. Again I agree the letter was written by a hypocrite, but the point is as churnbabychurn said.
And had this been organized by any other chassidus that dresses differently then them and has other hashkufois then them they would have banned it as well, in this scenario it's lubavitch.

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2014, 06:52:31 PM »
What churnbabychurd said is correct. Though the letter should be saying that exactly. And not what it says....

And to Dan, which other sect had a Mandel Vechter story? You make it sound as a simple flat lie...

Satmar learned a lesson once, and that was enough. Again I agree the letter was written by a hypocrite, but the point is as churnbabychurn said.
I'm not a historian.
All I know today is that the Chabad that I spent 8 years in yeshivas and centers around the world couldn't care less about making someone frum "become chabad" and doesn't feel that any other jew, frum or not, is worth any less than if they were chabad.
Nor is there a feeling that anyone frum is lacking something.

Though yes, we do believe the BS"T was told by mashiach that we'll be zoche to mashiach when the BS"Ts wellsprings are spread and that it's not a crime to offer to learn chassidus with someone.  But we're not to take some random kid off the street and start learning tanya with them, that's ludicrous.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2014, 06:57:14 PM by Dan »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2014, 07:12:38 PM »
Oh brother. :-\
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2014, 07:19:13 PM »
Apparently Lag B'Omer is a hard (discriminatory?) time for Yidden everywhere, not just Chabad.
Don't mean to C"V compare the reasonings here, it's just interesting seeing what different communities bring to the table as "issues".
Intense preparations are underway for this year’s Minyan Shelanu Lag Ba’omer barbecue and raffle event. The event this year will once again be held in the parking lot of the Blue Claws stadium, lakewood, NJ on the 18th of May.

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Tznius at the event will also be a priority, says Minyan Shelanu.

“In an effort to keep this year’s Lag Ba’omer Barbecue/Raffle event a fun and spiritual event for all, Minyan Shelanu kindly requests that teenage girls not attend the event unless accompanied by a parent.”
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2014, 07:24:32 PM »
Is there ever going to be a solution? 
Sigh.

Enough of this.

Have a wonderful Shabbos Ya''ll and enjoy Lag Baomer...  One of my favorite days of the year. ^-^
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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2014, 07:31:37 PM »
I'm completely neutral here.

But Chabad isn't trying to influence other sects by making their minhag with big pomp for other kids of different chassidusen in BP where there are a negligible amount of Chabad Chasidim?

FTR: If my kids will be bored I might take them. I have done so a few times in the past.

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2014, 07:38:25 PM »
Again, Trying to get someone to learn Chassidus ≠ trying to make someone Chabad.

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2014, 07:40:26 PM »
Parade ≠ Chassidus

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2014, 07:42:13 PM »
Again, Trying to get someone to learn Chassidus ≠ trying to make someone Chabad.
Obviously some non-chabadniks don't get that impression.
(and obviously all chabadninks will agree with that no matter what)

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Re: Chabad Lag B'Omer Parade Ban
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2014, 07:52:22 PM »
Again, Trying to get someone to learn Chassidus ≠ trying to make someone Chabad.

Also depends on which type of Chassidus learning.
Is it Noam Elimelech, Ohev Yisrael and Maor VeShamesh? Or is it Tanya.
Obviously, mainly one version of it.