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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2542 on: September 06, 2022, 10:21:14 AM »
Every time I see a Hebrew tweet I get more and more convinced that 95% of the language is just weirdly transliterated English.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2543 on: September 06, 2022, 10:23:06 AM »
Every time I see a Hebrew tweet I get more and more convinced that 95% of the language is just weirdly transliterated English.
So, like Yiddish?
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2544 on: September 06, 2022, 10:27:41 AM »
Every time I see a Hebrew tweet I get more and more convinced that 95% of the language is just weirdly transliterated English.

Only because having to translate/maintain/recall technical/specific jargon in any one field when the primary literature is (all?) in English is a waste of time.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2545 on: September 06, 2022, 10:28:57 AM »
So, like Yiddish?

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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2548 on: September 08, 2022, 09:34:27 AM »
@Something Fishy or anyone care to attempt to translate this post into English? ;D

https://twitter.com/jausdschneider/status/1567829356159827973
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2549 on: September 08, 2022, 09:39:36 AM »
https://twitter.com/a_a_viswanath/status/1567132869595652096

@Something Fishy or anyone care to attempt to translate this post into English? ;D

https://twitter.com/jausdschneider/status/1567829356159827973

Neither of these tweets are Yiddish. They're garbled YIVO-style Yiddishist that has absolutely no relation to spoken Yiddish today.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2550 on: September 08, 2022, 09:41:25 AM »
Isn't the first one from the guy who translated Harry Potter? That explains a.lot.

The heck is klal-shprakh?
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2551 on: September 08, 2022, 10:02:28 AM »
Neither of these tweets are Yiddish. They're garbled YIVO-style Yiddishist that has absolutely no relation to spoken Yiddish today.

I guess everyone lives in their own bubble. The "spoken Yiddish today" that you refer to is heavily influenced by American English (or is it regular english). I can't forget the time when I was speaking with a bunch of colleagues in W'brg and used the expression "א פאָר פֿאָלק" only to get glazed eyes looking at me not understanding what I was saying, until someone said "אַהה דוּ מיינסט אַ קאָפּל".


The heck is klal-shprakh?

Talk about living in a bubble.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2552 on: September 08, 2022, 10:05:51 AM »
Isn't the first one from the guy who translated Harry Potter? That explains a.lot.

As per my son his Yiddish is either Ukrainian or Galitzianer dialect (the uncertainty is mine not my son's) he often reaches out to my son for clarification regarding Lithuanian dialect.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2553 on: September 08, 2022, 11:19:09 AM »
I guess everyone lives in their own bubble. The "spoken Yiddish today" that you refer to is heavily influenced by American English (or is it regular english). I can't forget the time when I was speaking with a bunch of colleagues in W'brg and used the expression "א פאָר פֿאָלק" only to get glazed eyes looking at me not understanding what I was saying, until someone said "אַהה דוּ מיינסט אַ קאָפּל".

That is true, Yiddish was always influenced by the country they are spoken in, for example in Israel they use a lot of Hebrew words instead in Hungary back in the days they used to use Hungarian words etc.
Though I do think over here we have way more English words mixed into Yiddish then in other countries.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2554 on: September 08, 2022, 11:32:26 AM »
I guess everyone lives in their own bubble. The "spoken Yiddish today" that you refer to is heavily influenced by American English (or is it regular english). I can't forget the time when I was speaking with a bunch of colleagues in W'brg and used the expression "א פאָר פֿאָלק" only to get glazed eyes looking at me not understanding what I was saying, until someone said "אַהה דוּ מיינסט אַ קאָפּל".

Talk about living in a bubble.

I know very well what klal-shprakh means. My point is that it's not a phrase used in spoken Yiddish conversation today (and forget about that ridiculous spelling).

And you can harp about the Yiddish you speak vs. the one spoken in Williamsburg for as long as you'd like, but the fact remains that Yiddish as a living language exists only in the Chassidish world - and I'm specifically EXCLUDING Chabad here. Regardless of how well you speak Yiddish, it is simply not the language lingua franca in CH et al today; the version of Yiddish spoken by Chabad is more archaic that what's spoken on the street (for better or for worse).

(And to be a bit pedantic, I haven't met a Yiddish speaker who doesn't know what a פאָר פֿאָלק is. I'll take the liberty to suggest that your accent threw them off.)
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2555 on: September 08, 2022, 11:37:21 AM »
That is true, Yiddish was always influenced by the country they are spoken in, for example in Israel they use a lot of Hebrew words instead in Hungary back in the days they used to use Hungarian words etc.
Though I do think over here we have way more English words mixed into Yiddish then in other countries.

Of course. American Yiddish is very different than Israeli Yiddish - but I think everyone can understand each other pretty well by using context.

I was in Estonia a few weeks ago and trying to have a conversation with a bunch of locals at the Shabbos meal. Their English was terrible and my Estonian and Russian non-existent. We weren't communicating very well until I thought to try in Yiddish - and then we sat and schmoozed for hours. I didn't understand every single word they said and I'm sure it went the other way as well, but the language was the same and we got along swimmingly.

Now if you'd put me into a room with the Harry Potter dude, we may as well be speaking Mandarin. That's the real difference between Chassidish/Chabad/Israeli/European/whatever and what I call YIVO Yiddishist.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2557 on: September 08, 2022, 02:03:39 PM »
Neither of these tweets are Yiddish. They're garbled YIVO-style Yiddishist that has absolutely no relation to spoken Yiddish today.

And the second is a tweet trying to point out the absurdity thereof.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2558 on: September 08, 2022, 02:07:41 PM »
And the second is a tweet trying to point out the absurdity thereof.

Exactly.

I tried translating it into English, but stumbled on נאוואטאריש. Summoned my son for help, and came up with the following translation: "The programmer reveals an innovative browser add-on so that it could programmatically display the Yiddish user interface". How would you write that sentence in Yiddish @Something Fishy?
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2559 on: September 08, 2022, 05:17:03 PM »
Posting this here, though it could go in the stocks or QE2 threads.

https://twitter.com/amlivemon/status/1567974906549391361
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