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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2940 on: April 02, 2023, 12:04:45 AM »
So basically it’s a shot taken in an internal fight and Chabad is cannon-fodder/collateral damage. Thanks for clarifying.

It's a nice theory but nope. I actually took a glimpse Friday in seforim store and unlike the sensational title it's more of a specific situation. It is a tshuva from a certain dayan to a group of satmar yungerleit who are every shabbos in Ellenville where they daven at the local chabad shul. They were complaining about מחללי שבת coming to shul on shabbos with their cars, and on the Rov giving a speech in English to a mixed crowd after davening.

I really took just a quick glimpse but if that interests you I can possibly stop by, gather more details and report back. 
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2941 on: April 02, 2023, 12:22:11 AM »
It's a nice theory but nope. I actually took a glimpse Friday in seforim store and unlike the sensational title it's more of a specific situation. It is a tshuva from a certain dayan to a group of satmar yungerleit who are every shabbos in Ellenville where they daven at the local chabad shul. They were complaining about מחללי שבת coming to shul on shabbos with their cars, and on the Rov giving a speech in English to a mixed crowd after davening.

I really took just a quick glimpse but if that interests you I can possibly stop by, gather more details and report back.

Do they publish every teshuva to a random group of yungeleit? Also, if you read the whole thing, the maskana is that they should not have anything to do with a Chabad rabbi, because he might influence them to become Zionists.

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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2942 on: April 02, 2023, 12:28:17 AM »
Do they publish every teshuva to a random group of yungeleit? Also, if you read the whole thing, the maskana is that they should not have anything to do with a Chabad rabbi, because he might influence them to become Zionists.

Wow I see you got your hands on one. Is he not even addressing their question?
I rarely look at it but such a teshuva is actually ideal content for that קובץ. Contemporary somewhat controversial real life debatable matters.

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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2943 on: April 02, 2023, 12:37:13 AM »
Do they publish every teshuva to a random group of yungeleit? Also, if you read the whole thing, the maskana is that they should not have anything to do with a Chabad rabbi, because he might influence them to become Zionists.

Bigger chance you’ll see me co-hosting a show with Andrew Tate than these guys becoming Zionists because of this Chabad Rabbi.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2944 on: April 02, 2023, 12:38:45 AM »
It's a nice theory but nope. I actually took a glimpse Friday in seforim store and unlike the sensational title it's more of a specific situation. It is a tshuva from a certain dayan to a group of satmar yungerleit who are every shabbos in Ellenville where they daven at the local chabad shul. They were complaining about מחללי שבת coming to shul on shabbos with their cars, and on the Rov giving a speech in English to a mixed crowd after davening.

I really took just a quick glimpse but if that interests you I can possibly stop by, gather more details and report back. 

Thanks, I’m really just curious. The title on the cover implies it’s a general question: “Is one allowed to Daven at a Chabad House?”.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2945 on: April 02, 2023, 12:41:52 AM »
Thanks, I’m really just curious. The title on the cover implies it’s a general question: “Is one allowed to Daven at a Chabad House?”.

I'm certain that dayan himself would daven at a chabad house when he's abroad. Would he daven בקביעות at a chabad house? I'm sure not.

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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2946 on: April 02, 2023, 12:46:42 AM »
Bigger chance you’ll see me co-hosting a show with Andrew Tate than these guys becoming Zionists because of this Chabad Rabbi.

בהשגחה פרטית just read a letter from תרפ"ב from the Frierdike Rebbe to R' Moshe Betzalel & R' Mendel Alter, asking them to publish a strong denial to the claims of the Zionists that the Gerrer Rebbe moving to EY is because he agrees with the Zionists.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2947 on: April 02, 2023, 01:06:08 AM »
בהשגחה פרטית just read a letter from תרפ"ב from the Frierdike Rebbe to R' Moshe Betzalel & R' Mendel Alter, asking them to publish a strong denial to the claims of the Zionists that the Gerrer Rebbe moving to EY is because he agrees with the Zionists.

That was of course the authentic Lubavitch approach. No-one was a stronger fighter of the Zionist movement than the Rebbe the Rashab. But you can understand why things like - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredim_and_Zionism#:~:text=Chabad%20Zionism,Zionist!%22%5B73%5D - is of cardinal sin to satmars.

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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2948 on: April 02, 2023, 07:35:25 AM »
Wow I see you got your hands on one. Is he not even addressing their question?

Pictures were going around on WhatsApp.

I'm certain that dayan himself would daven at a chabad house when he's abroad. Would he daven בקביעות at a chabad house? I'm sure not.

He paskens that you are not allowed to daven within 4 amos of a non-frum yid...

On the other hand, he writes that they are allowed to rent space in the shul for their own minyan if they deal with the (non-frum) president, but not if they are renting from the Chabad rabbi...

ETA: The view he takes of Chabad is not that of the vast majority of Satmar. Most of the yungeleit continued to daven in the shul even after this tshuva. The Chabad rabbi was asked to speak to the bochurim of a Satmar mesivta, and did so.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2949 on: April 02, 2023, 10:07:45 AM »
the maskana is that they should not have anything to do with a Chabad rabbi, because he might influence them to become Zionists.
LOL
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2950 on: April 02, 2023, 10:25:21 AM »
LOL

I guess it's good that I'm not a Chabad Rabbi (not sure how I would be labeled), or else they might be banned from talking to me because I might make them appear to be Zionists if compared to me.
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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2951 on: April 02, 2023, 08:28:21 PM »
he might influence them to become Zionists.
Is the chinuch in satmar that weak?

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Re: The Funny/strange/interesting/random Tweets Thread
« Reply #2952 on: April 02, 2023, 09:41:24 PM »
Is the chinuch in satmar that weak?

Of course! Something Fishy has befriended Dan, got ridiculed he's NK, and he has already planned a visit to the Kosel  ;D ;D

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« Reply #2953 on: April 02, 2023, 09:46:33 PM »
Of course! Something Fishy has befriended Dan, got ridiculed he's NK, and he has already planned a visit to the Kosel  ;D ;D
Worse yes, we learned Chitas (B'hashgocha protis, Tanya perek 32) in Lofoten!

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