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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #135 on: May 13, 2018, 09:38:58 PM »
At the panel the neutral wire block is connected the main ground, with this fact in mind, the ground and neutral are virtually the same.
The voltage potential at that point is the same. Through out the house that will not be the same. As an electrician you are fully aware in older houses the conduit itself was the ground. You try using that as your neutral is an accident waiting to happen.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #136 on: May 13, 2018, 09:40:00 PM »
The voltage potential at that point is the same. Through out the house that will not be the same. As an electrician you are fully aware in older houses the conduit itself was the ground. You try using that as your neutral is an accident waiting to happen.

Now back to the bubble busting. An ET is way above the food chain than an electrician.  :)
I'd only use it for timers

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #138 on: May 13, 2018, 09:52:35 PM »
https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-neutral-and-ground-wires-are-not-interchangeable/27849/23
Based in that discussion, as long as the neutral points back to the same panel its mostly safe, since in NYC all wiring is required to be in a conduit it should be enough to attach to the switch-box.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #139 on: May 13, 2018, 09:57:59 PM »
Based in that discussion, as long as the neutral points back to the same panel its mostly safe, since in NYC all wiring is required to be in a conduit it should be enough to attach to the switch-box.
Let me say this again. Never use the ground as a neutral.
There are many situations where this can be dangerous. Things can be wired wrong or you can get broken/welded wires. Try using ground for neutral with a GFCI?
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #140 on: May 13, 2018, 09:59:14 PM »
If someone got the 2 wire timer and wants to use it for a chandelier with LED bulbs you can flip one of the many bulbs with a incandescent bulb and everything should work fine.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #141 on: May 13, 2018, 10:01:59 PM »
If someone got the 2 wire timer and wants to use it for a chandelier with LED bulbs you can flip one of the many bulbs with a incandescent bulb and everything should work fine.
If all the bulbs are in parallel, yes.  :)
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #142 on: May 13, 2018, 10:12:01 PM »
If all the bulbs are in parallel, yes.  :)
oh my i thought i'm done, what difference would it make? i w'd assume that most chandeliers are parallel otherwise if one burns out none of them would work correct me if i'm wrong.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #143 on: May 13, 2018, 10:15:13 PM »
oh my i thought i'm done, what difference would it make? i w'd assume that most chandeliers are parallel otherwise if one burns out none of them would work correct me if i'm wrong.
I couldn't let you go that easy.  :)
You are correct. I would also assume they are in parallel since I never seen one in series. 
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #144 on: May 14, 2018, 12:29:51 PM »
If someone got the 2 wire timer and wants to use it for a chandelier with LED bulbs you can flip one of the many bulbs with a incandescent bulb and everything should work fine.
Go for halogen; they are much more energy efficient.
More importantly, there are some incandescent bulbs that as they blow, a shorter segment of the filament can contact both sides, reducing the resistance and sending a surge of current through the timer that blows the timer. I had a few timers that failed and I suspect this type of bulb failure contributed to it. Halogen bulbs that I have seen tend to have a single straight filament where this would not happen.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #147 on: July 05, 2018, 02:35:29 PM »
How do clear a setting for
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you can set 7 programs per week how do you reset program 1  and 2 they should stop running when set to auto?

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #148 on: July 05, 2018, 02:56:12 PM »
How do clear a setting for
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you can set 7 programs per week how do you reset program 1  and 2 they should stop running when set to auto?
Cycle through the days for particular program until the day selected is no day at all.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #149 on: July 05, 2018, 05:26:46 PM »
Turning off breakers in my house is a pain. I'm going to replace a thermostat (3 wires, if that matters) - do I really need to turn off the fuse, or am I gonna kill myself?