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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #200 on: September 21, 2018, 12:13:24 AM »
Like in this post?
No, I meant a diagram showing every wire.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #201 on: September 21, 2018, 12:20:07 AM »
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Need to mark the colors of the wires.  ;)
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2018, 03:36:50 PM »
"Original wiring was two simple switches, each on had a hot wire (line)"
Did you connect both of these to each other and to a single terminal of the new switch? My concern would be if they previously were controlled by two separate circuit breakers, in which case they shouldn't be connected to each other. How could you verify that now without undoing it? Turn off all circuit breakers except the main. Then turn on one at a time while someone watches the timer. If more than one of them causes the timer to come to life, you have a problem.

Good point! The two switches were on the same breaker, so no issue.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #203 on: September 23, 2018, 03:45:00 PM »
You equate white with neutral. It's not always used that way. For example, if the first segment of cable goes from the circuit breaker panel to a ceiling light fixture and a second segment of cable goes from the ceiling light fixture to a wall switch, that second segment will have a black insulated wire that is always hot and a white insulated wire that is hot when the switch is on.

+1. I never said the wires were neutral, I called them LOAD but not everyone understood, so I said white. Plus, I specifically mwntioned that I dug out the neutral wires from in the box. Appreciate you being helpful.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2018, 08:03:39 PM »
Just so everyone understands you never use white for load, line, hot in a 110v circuits. We call these guys "schlocks".  :)
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #205 on: October 10, 2018, 12:55:20 PM »
I have a room with no lights, only an outlet connected to a light switch.

I want to put in recessed lighting. Thinking of using these:

Designers Fountain EV407941WH27 Modern Easy Up 4 inch 2700K Warm White 91 CRI Integrated Led Recessed Light with J-Box (No Can Needed) - - Amazon.com ($21.17)



Never done this before. Anyone have any tips for me before I start cutting holes and fishing wires?

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #206 on: October 11, 2018, 12:55:52 AM »
I have a room with no lights, only an outlet connected to a light switch.

I want to put in recessed lighting. Thinking of using these:

Designers Fountain EV407941WH27 Modern Easy Up 4 inch 2700K Warm White 91 CRI Integrated Led Recessed Light with J-Box (No Can Needed) - - Amazon.com ($21.17)



Never done this before. Anyone have any tips for me before I start cutting holes and fishing wires?
The pic looks like it has holes for NM cable and the product description does not clarify what other holes are available on the junction box. If it does not have holes for metal cable, it may not be suitable for locations that require metal cable. So if your locale does not allow NM, you should pose this question on Amazon.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #207 on: October 11, 2018, 01:12:08 AM »
The pic looks like it has holes for NM cable and the product description does not clarify what other holes are available on the junction box. If it does not have holes for metal cable, it may not be suitable for locations that require metal cable. So if your locale does not allow NM, you should pose this question on Amazon.
https://www.lbclighting.com/media/uploads/instructsheet/EV407941-install.pdf
This product is designed to be used with NM (Romex) cables only.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #208 on: October 11, 2018, 08:21:02 AM »
The pic looks like it has holes for NM cable and the product description does not clarify what other holes are available on the junction box. If it does not have holes for metal cable, it may not be suitable for locations that require metal cable. So if your locale does not allow NM, you should pose this question on Amazon.

Thanks. How do I find out if Romex is allowed? I have a whole bunch of old Romex running through my basement. Can I assume it's fine?

Separate question: Should I replace all the old Romex in the basement?

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #209 on: October 11, 2018, 09:01:53 AM »
Thanks. How do I find out if Romex is allowed? I have a whole bunch of old Romex running through my basement. Can I assume it's fine?

Separate question: Should I replace all the old Romex in the basement?
Don't assume Romex is code. With that being said there is no issue with Romex.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #210 on: October 11, 2018, 09:14:13 AM »
Don't assume Romex is code. With that being said there is no issue with Romex.

So hypothetically if I go ahead and do it with Romex, what's the worst case scenario? (assuming I do everything correctly)

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #211 on: October 11, 2018, 09:18:35 AM »
So hypothetically if I go ahead and do it with Romex, what's the worst case scenario? (assuming I do everything correctly)
The Code Police find you and make you rip it out and fine you.  :)
IMHO in a private there would be no issue.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #212 on: October 11, 2018, 09:21:19 AM »
The Code Police find you and make you rip it out and fine you.  :)
IMHO in a private there would be no issue.

Thanks.

To the code police, if you're reading this: I'm not the guy that called you yesterday. That was a different guy.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #213 on: October 11, 2018, 01:38:11 PM »
Thanks. How do I find out if Romex is allowed? I have a whole bunch of old Romex running through my basement. Can I assume it's fine?

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Make sure that you are using the correct gauge of romex for the fuse.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #214 on: October 23, 2018, 08:26:52 PM »
Ok so I finally got around to looking at the wiring to try and figure out what's going on. In a nutshell: I have no idea what's going on.

I have a lightswitch that controls only one outlet, nothing else (as far as I can tell).

I pulled the switch out of the box, and found the following:

There are two Romex cables coming into the box. One has two wires (black and white) and one has three (black white and red). The two white wires are connected to each other, makes sense. The red wire is connected to the top screw on the switch. BOTH black wires are connected to the bottom screw of the switch. Huh?

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #215 on: October 23, 2018, 08:46:55 PM »
My guess would be.
White = neutral
Black = hot
Red = switched

The other end of three wire Romex can be feeding another circuit.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #216 on: October 23, 2018, 08:59:10 PM »
My guess would be.
White = neutral
Black = hot
Red = switched

The other end of three wire Romex can be feeding another circuit.

Aha. This makes sense.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #217 on: October 23, 2018, 09:01:24 PM »
Aha. This makes sense.
Is one half of the outlet hot all the time? The other half is switched?
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #218 on: October 23, 2018, 09:06:55 PM »
Is one half of the outlet hot all the time? The other half is switched?

Just checked and it's not. Good thought though

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #219 on: December 08, 2018, 08:43:39 PM »
Anyone know any licensed electricians in Flatbush?
I just got my Model 3 and would like a quote on installing a 2nd meter and 240v outlet for off peak charging