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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #800 on: October 06, 2022, 08:14:09 PM »
You already said that, and if you could just answer my question or take a pic of that breaker we could confirm my theory. When the switch is off, there is no leak in current, so tripping when you flip the switch fits with what an AFCI is designed to do
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #801 on: October 06, 2022, 10:06:18 PM »
Are AFCI commonly used? Would they detect a ground fault like a GFCI?
ETA: Looks like they are not GFCI unless labeled as so.

Yeah and I found out the hard way not to install a separate gfci outlet on an afci protected line. If you want both protections get a combo breaker

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #802 on: October 06, 2022, 11:01:10 PM »
Yeah and I found out the hard way not to install a separate gfci outlet on an afci protected line.
AFCI will not work?
Fun fact: GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter) does not use or need a ground to work.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #803 on: October 07, 2022, 01:18:09 PM »
AFCI will not work?
Fun fact: GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter) does not use or need a ground to work.

Too many false positives.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #804 on: October 23, 2022, 11:45:59 PM »
Does anyone know how ConEd disconnects service? Do they ever shut the service before the meter?
Have a yeshiva dorm that has no power and the meters are blank. No reading with my NCV tester on the wires before the meter.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #805 on: October 24, 2022, 06:28:53 PM »
It's all remote these days IINM
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #806 on: October 24, 2022, 06:56:23 PM »
It's all remote these days IINM
With the use of smart meters? There should still be power going to the meter.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #807 on: October 24, 2022, 07:12:30 PM »
With the use of smart meters? There should still be power going to the meter.
Update: all the bills were paid on time. ConEd says they see there's an issue and will come check it out.

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #808 on: December 22, 2022, 09:43:43 PM »
This is a really old doorbell chime, I'm trying to replace, anyone familiar with how it works?

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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #809 on: December 22, 2022, 09:53:57 PM »
This is a really old doorbell chime, I'm trying to replace, anyone familiar with how it works?
Does it go to a transformer somewhere?
This is standard wiring:


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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #810 on: December 22, 2022, 10:00:14 PM »
Does it go to a transformer somewhere?
This is standard wiring:


Not sure.
It comes in at 10v AC, does that make sense?
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #811 on: December 22, 2022, 10:08:44 PM »
Not sure.
It comes in at 10v AC, does that make sense?
If it is old, yes. New transformers are 18-24V. The doorbell cameras need the higher voltage.
The wiring goes like this. Two conductor wire from each of the front and back door switches to the transformer.  Three conductor wire from chime to transformer. All connections done at transformer location.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #812 on: December 22, 2022, 10:14:32 PM »
If it is old, yes. New transformers are 18-24V. The doorbell cameras need the higher voltage.
The wiring goes like this. Two conductor wire from each of the front and back door switches to the transformer.  Three conductor wire from chime to transformer. All connections done at transformer location.
Yup it's very old. Can I get a buzzer for 10v?
Having trouble finding one an Amazon


ETA
This one says 16v can I get by?
https://www.amazon.com/Newhouse-Hardware-CHM1-Chime-White/dp/B019BW9TX6
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #813 on: December 22, 2022, 10:21:54 PM »
Yup it's very old. Can I get a buzzer for 10v?
Having trouble finding one an Amazon


ETA
This one says 16v can I get by?
https://www.amazon.com/Newhouse-Hardware-CHM1-Chime-White/dp/B019BW9TX6
That is a standard chime. What happen to your current chime?
Also you need to test the voltage at the transformer.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #814 on: December 22, 2022, 10:23:09 PM »
That is a standard chime. What happen to your current chime?
Also you need to test the voltage at the transformer.
Covered in paint :)
It's an apartment building, I assume they have a central transformer.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #815 on: December 22, 2022, 10:25:29 PM »
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #816 on: December 22, 2022, 10:26:19 PM »
Covered in paint :)
It's an apartment building, I assume they have a central transformer.
I would get the chime and if it doesn't work just return it.
If you want to test the voltage at the chime. Disconnect the T wire at the chime and the wire for either the front or back door. Put your meter across those two wires and have someone push and hold the doorbell (front or back).
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #817 on: December 22, 2022, 10:27:10 PM »
I would get the chime and if it doesn't work just return it.
Thank you! Ordered the 2nd one, I assume it's the better option.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #818 on: December 22, 2022, 10:30:52 PM »
Thank you! Ordered the 2nd one, I assume it's the better option.
See edit to test voltage.
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Re: I need Electric Help... Any electricians out there?
« Reply #819 on: December 22, 2022, 10:32:46 PM »
See edit to test voltage.
I would get the chime and if it doesn't work just return it.
If you want to test the voltage at the chime. Disconnect the T wire at the chime and the wire for either the front or back door. Put your meter across those two wires and have someone push and hold the doorbell (front or back).
I tested the voltage with the chime off, using the live and neutral (not sure if that's the proper terms here) from the image above. (it was 10v)
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