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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2014, 09:47:54 AM »
Now IDF saying possibly that there were transferred to Sinai or gaza 

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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2014, 12:27:28 PM »
Now IDF saying possibly that there were transferred to Sinai or gaza
Source?  I saw the opposite.
Now they are saying that the guys actually called the cops and told them that they were kidnapped but the cops didn't pay too much attention to it.

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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2014, 12:33:08 PM »
Just to rewrite, as of now most news cannot 100% be for sure. I don't think it is proper to just copy things from other sources here unless it is for 100% correct.

Usually I am the person copying over the info and for the reason states is why I am staying silent as of now

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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2014, 12:35:42 PM »
Source?  I saw the opposite.
Now they are saying that the guys actually called the cops and told them that they were kidnapped but the cops didn't pay too much attention to it.
They called on Thursday night.

The search didn't start till Friday morning.

That leaves plenty of time to get to Sinai.

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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2014, 12:42:38 PM »
They called on Thursday night.

The search didn't start till Friday morning.

That leaves plenty of time to get to Sinai.
True, however I have not seen this being pointed out but I don't think the kidnappers knew that the Israeli response would take so long, they probably were so excited with their accomplishment that they hid them in a place where they would face the least risk of exposure.
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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2014, 12:46:53 PM »
This is a article on chanel 2 israeli news how you understand Hebrew
דיווח: מצרים מסייעת בפתרון משבר החטופים

סוכנות הידיעות הפלסטינית "מען" מדווחת כי גורמים בממשל המצרי מסייעים בפתרון משבר שלושת הנערים החטופים. על פי הדיווח, הם יצרו קשר עם גורמים המקורבים לחמאס ולג'יהאד לצורך פתרון הסוגייה, וההערכה היא שהחטופים עדיין נמצאים בשטח הגדה
חדשות 2 2014-06-15

השלטון החדש במצרים מסייע לישראל בפתרון משבר החטופים? סוכנות הידיעות הפלסטינית "מען" מדווחת כי כוחות ביטחון הלאומי המצריים יצרו הבוקר (א') קשר עם גורמים בממשלה הפלסטינית במטרה להביא לסיומו של משבר שלושת בני הישיבה שנחטפו בסוף השבוע האחרון.

רוצים לקבל עדכונים נוספים? הצטרפו לחדשות 2 בפייסבוק

על פי הדיווח, שלטונות מצרים נמצאים בקשר מרחוק עם המפלגות הפלסטיניות להן מגע ישיר עם ארגון החמאס והג'יהאד אסלאמי, כדי לנסות ולאסוף מידע אודות שלושת החטופים, אייל יפרח, גיל-עד שאער ונפתלי פרנקל. הפרט החשוב ביותר שעולה מן הדיווח הוא שלפי המקורות המצריים, השלושה עדיין נמצאים בשטח הגדה - ולא הועברו לירדן, חצי האי סיני או לשטח רצועת עזה.

עד כה, השלטון הזמני במצרים, שהפך לשלטון קבע לאחר בחירתו של עבד אל-פתח א-סיסי לנשיא, הקפיד שלא ליצור ערוצי הידברות ישירים עם חמאס - אלא שכעת עושים זאת גורמים מטעם הממשלה ושלא באופן גלוי, זאת כדי לסייע בפתרון משבר החטופים, לו יש פוטנציאל נפיץ לאזור כולו.

לדיווח על סיוע מצרי אין כל אישור מגורמים ישראלים. הנחת העבודה הישראלית היא שהחטופים הינם בחיים כל עוד לא התקבל מידע אחר - וכי ככל הנראה לא הועברו לשטח של מדינה אחרת - או לרצועת עזה, כפי שעולה מהדיווח.

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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2014, 12:58:25 PM »
Thanks Google Translate
Report: Egypt helps in resolving hostage crisis

Palestinian news agency "address" reports that the Egyptian government officials assist in resolving the crisis three boys kidnapped. According to the report, they made contact with sources close to Hamas and Jihad in order to resolve the issue, and it is estimated hostages are still in the West
News 2 2014-06-15

The new regime in Egypt helps Israel to solve the hostage crisis? Palestinian news agency "address" reports that the Egyptian national security forces have created this morning (Sunday) to do with the Palestinian government officials in order to end the crisis three yeshiva students kidnapped last weekend.

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According to the report, the Egyptian authorities are in remote Palestinian parties have direct contact with Hamas and Islamic Jihad, to try to gather information about the three kidnapped reindeer flourish, age - up Shaer and Naftali Frenkel. The most important detail is clear from the report is that according to Egyptian sources, three are still in the West - and not transferred to Jordan, or the Sinai Peninsula into the Gaza Strip.

So far, the temporal power in Egypt, which has become the rule set after the election of Abdel - A - Sissy president, was careful not to create channels of dialogue directly with Hamas - but now do so causes the government and not in the open, in order to help resolve the hostage crisis, he has explosive potential region.

Egyptian aid reporting no approval by the Israelis. Israel's working assumption is the hostages are alive as long as no other information was available - and that probably were not transferred into another country - or the Gaza Strip, as appears from the report.

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Re: 1 missing American, have you contacted your elected officials?
« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2014, 01:03:45 PM »
What would you like your elected official to do?

We are headed in to elections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_2014

Pressing elected officials to act on an abducted US citizen, a minor no less... by a group that is allied by those that receive US aid.

They can pressure the PA, they can take measures to cut off aid and freeze bank accounts etc

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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2014, 01:16:04 PM »
They arrested 80 suspects so they could get the info they need from their paid informants without anyone realizing who they are.
They should be shooting one every hour until these guys are back
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Re: 1 missing American, have you contacted your elected officials?
« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2014, 01:18:32 PM »
Why hasn't Obama said anything about this missing American?
Because it would set a large precedent. There are many US citizens serving in the Israeli military, America doesn't want to be held responsible for them

I'm not justifying it - just explaining
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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #55 on: June 15, 2014, 01:21:01 PM »
They should be shooting one every hour until these guys are back

The terrorists would let the 80 die.

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Re: 1 missing American, have you contacted your elected officials?
« Reply #56 on: June 15, 2014, 01:23:59 PM »
Because it would set a large precedent. There are many US citizens serving in the Israeli military, America doesn't want to be held responsible for them

I'm not justifying it - just explaining
A POW is very different than 3 kids off the street.

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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #57 on: June 15, 2014, 01:29:28 PM »
The terrorists would let the 80 die.
Not if they had a decent way out
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Re: 3 bochurim kidnapped by terrorist!
« Reply #58 on: June 15, 2014, 01:30:15 PM »
They should be shooting one every hour until these guys are back
That would be barbaric.
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Re: 1 missing American, have you contacted your elected officials?
« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2014, 01:30:20 PM »
A POW is very different than 3 kids off the street.
West bank settlement isn't off the street either
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