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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #555 on: September 01, 2014, 10:16:02 PM »
Thank you.

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #556 on: September 01, 2014, 10:16:49 PM »
Now back to our show......
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #557 on: September 01, 2014, 10:25:35 PM »
any rabbi that tells you that you are not a rasha bc times have changed is a koifer. if your rabbi feels that in your personal situation that you are not ready to keep the whole torah and its better if he tells you its ok so that you dont drop everything, thats fine , but one who goes is still a rasha and is oiver on a isur deoraisa. and will be punished in the next world, no rabbi can change that


Wow! So whoever uses the term נשטתנו הטבעים or נשתנו העתים is ipso facto a kofer. Kofer in what exactly? Do we still keep our women locked up the way the Rambam says we should? or do we say that times have changed and women today are a normal occurrence on the street?


you will rarely find those terms being used its a very delicate issue and the guidlines may vary, i have heard different shitos as to exactly when we can say it. but according to no definition can one apply it to our disscussion
R S Z Auerbach uses similar reasoning to be matir walking behind a woman in the street since it is common for women to be in the street these days
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #558 on: September 01, 2014, 10:29:26 PM »

R S Z Auerbach uses similar reasoning to be matir walking behind a woman in the street since it is common for women to be in the street these days
Source?

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #559 on: September 01, 2014, 10:30:26 PM »
Source?
it's in Minchas Shlomo. Need to find siman.
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #560 on: September 01, 2014, 10:31:09 PM »
it's in Minchas Shlomo. Need to find siman.
Where?

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #563 on: September 02, 2014, 04:16:33 PM »

(didnt mean to avoid the q)sorry i do not have enough yedios to answer that question and my guess is not worth a grain of salt
Yet you were quite willing to call people reshaim :o
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #564 on: September 02, 2014, 10:43:09 PM »

R S Z Auerbach uses similar reasoning to be matir walking behind a woman in the street since it is common for women to be in the street these days
nothing similar about it a) he doent say "times have changed and the halacha doesnt apply" he says the mechaber says pagah and when its not a situation of pagah it would maybe be muttar. that would be then as well as now if there was a situation then that it would have been common it would be muttar he is clearly saying that the mechaber says that the halacha was based on a situation and if that changes then the halacha would change
b)he clearly doesnt rely on this for a heter he adds another heter and then says for a mitzva its muttar
c)the isur is olso by ones wife like rashi explains its a genai, when chazall give a reason its easier to say the reason doesnt apply so maybe the hallacha doesnt apply
but when chazal tell us one who choose a path where he can be nichshal is a rasha that never changes like rashi explains the gemara ו שלא היה לו לקרב אלא להרחיק מן העבירה דקיימא לן
 (חולין לף מל הרחק מן הכיעור
Yet you were quite willing to call people reshaim :o
אדם קורא לחבירו רשע יורד עמו לתוך חייו
i think i made myself pretty clear that i was in response to the idea of going to agt that would constitute the case of the gemara calling him a rasha. you were asking somthing entirely different, can he be considered a ones  if he is going that way due to a shortcut. meaning you are saying there can be three different cases either he needs to be at point b or he needs to go this way to get to point b, but the third scenario that he want to walk this way just cuz he njoys walkining on the sefas of the nehar i am certain is asur he would not be called a ones and say ones rachmana .. going to agt is comparred to the third scenario

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #565 on: September 02, 2014, 11:10:36 PM »
And if he can go a way that is a bit longer?
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #566 on: September 02, 2014, 11:14:06 PM »
This thread is so off topic.  >:(

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #567 on: September 02, 2014, 11:15:32 PM »
Don't worry, it will all get back to cholov akum
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #568 on: September 02, 2014, 11:16:35 PM »
Don't worry, it will all get back to cholov akum

Yay!  ;D

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #569 on: September 02, 2014, 11:33:20 PM »
And if he can go a way that is a bit longer?
is this not what we previously discussed