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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #440 on: August 20, 2014, 04:40:32 PM »
Wow, I'll tell you what's not fun...

You took a lot of words to essentially agree with me. Why so combative?

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #441 on: August 20, 2014, 04:44:05 PM »
Wow, I'll tell you what's not fun...

You took a lot of words to essentially agree with me. Why so combative?
Your original post said one shouldn't go to AGT because it's not really entertaining or fun. I didn't believe you had a source for that so i called you out on that.

The gemara at the end of Eizhu Neshech says one of the amorim would make his young children lend money bribbis so they can see the pleasure of earning  interest and get more schar for abstaining from it when they become of age. (Yes I know machlos assurim is a machlokes rishonim)

If I misunderstood your point, I apologize. But I definitely used less words than you
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #442 on: August 20, 2014, 04:51:54 PM »
Your original post said one shouldn't go to AGT because it's not really entertaining or fun. I didn't believe you had a source for that so i called you out on that.

The gemara at the end of Eizhu Neshech says one of the amorim would make his young children lend money bribbis so they can see the pleasure of earning  interest and get more schar for abstaining from it when they become of age. (Yes I know machlos assurim is a machlokes rishonim)

If I misunderstood your point, I apologize. But I definitely used less words than you

Sweet friend, there are levels in fun. Spinning around until you're dizzy is fun. At least it would seem so from my little sons and daughters who do it all the time. I am sure AGT is fun. I am sure that a Yankee's game is fun. Peekaboo is also fun.

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #443 on: August 20, 2014, 04:56:50 PM »
Sweet friend, there are levels in fun. Spinning around until you're dizzy is fun. At least it would seem so from my little sons and daughters who do it all the time. I am sure AGT is fun. I am sure that a Yankee's game is fun. Peekaboo is also fun.
I actually don't think a Yankees game is fun at all. But I am confused about your point.
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #444 on: August 20, 2014, 05:14:40 PM »
I actually don't think a Yankees game is fun at all. But I am confused about your point.

Well there are 80,000 people who do think it's fun. Congratulations for not being one of them.

My point is only this: there are levels of fun. Aveiros can be pleasurable, that's why people DO them. (I won't get into the side discussion of how much actual pleasure there is and how much that pleasure is compounded by the mayim genuvim yimtaku...)

Today, in the "frum" world, there are two main camps. Those who says: I want my Judaism and I want my fun (minyan at a Yankee's game, or daf yomi shiur AFTER the AGT show) and then there are those who say, "I want my Judaism INSTEAD of fun! I don't NEED fun."

The healthier, and more true approach is that Judaism IS fun.

Now the question is HOW fun is Judaism? Well, it all depends on you and where you are holding right now. You can be a person who would rather go to AGT than learn a blat gemara but you can become a person who would genuinely prefer a blat gemara to AGT.

That's all I am saying. If it is still unclear, I am sorry. I guess I am not a very good communicator.

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #445 on: August 20, 2014, 05:18:59 PM »
The healthier, and more true approach is that Judaism IS fun.

Now the question is HOW fun is Judaism? Well, it all depends on you and where you are holding right now. You can be a person who would rather go to AGT than learn a blat gemara but you can become a person who would genuinely prefer a blat gemara to AGT.

That's all I am saying. If it is still unclear, I am sorry. I guess I am not a very good communicator.
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #446 on: August 20, 2014, 05:20:40 PM »

Now the question is HOW fun is Judaism? Well, it all depends on you and where you are holding right now. You can be a person who would rather go to AGT than learn a blat gemara but you can become a person who would genuinely prefer a blat gemara to AGT.

With that I agree. Now I know what you and your wife do on date night
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #447 on: August 20, 2014, 05:22:07 PM »

Sweet friend, there are levels in fun. Spinning around until you're dizzy is fun. I am sure AGT is fun. I am sure that a Yankee's game is fun. Peekaboo is also fun.
This thread used to be fun :p guess I'm growing up.

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #448 on: August 20, 2014, 05:31:55 PM »
The gemara at the end of Eizhu Neshech says one of the amorim would make his young children lend money bribbis so they can see the pleasure of earning  interest and get more schar for abstaining from it when they become of age. (Yes I know machlos assurim is a machlokes rishonim)

Where is that gemara? Are you talking about the gemara on 75a? Because that's not what that gemara says (although maybe you're referring to a different one I'm not familiar with).

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #449 on: August 20, 2014, 05:38:37 PM »
With that I agree. Now I know what you and your wife do on date night
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #450 on: August 20, 2014, 05:38:59 PM »
Where is that gemara? Are you talking about the gemara on 75a? Because that's not what that gemara says (although maybe you're referring to a different one I'm not familiar with).
Yes, just checked. I got the story wrong (it's been 4 years), but according to R Channenel and the Rif the genera does say that essentially there's an inyan to know fun it is (Rashi has a dif pshat).

Do you disagree?
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #451 on: August 20, 2014, 05:40:14 PM »
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #452 on: August 20, 2014, 07:00:16 PM »
Yes, just checked. I got the story wrong (it's been 4 years), but according to R Channenel and the Rif the genera does say that essentially there's an inyan to know fun it is (Rashi has a dif pshat).

Do you disagree?

I'd have to check the meforshim. :-)

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #453 on: August 20, 2014, 07:13:02 PM »

Why the eyes?

They were for what was clearly going to follow from your comment.

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #454 on: August 20, 2014, 11:43:55 PM »
The first Mitzvah? ;)

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #457 on: August 21, 2014, 04:33:58 PM »
No need to be jealous if you can't eat MD's.  :)
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #458 on: August 21, 2014, 04:35:32 PM »
Looks like you never tried it.
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #459 on: August 21, 2014, 06:47:24 PM »
Let me tell you, I've eaten MCD's and it's nothing I ever need to try again :P
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