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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #510 on: August 26, 2014, 09:50:48 AM »
Three steps to absolution (Sacrament of Penance)?
there is one major component of tshuva which is not part of Christian sacrament iinm, and that is kabalah al ha'asid, that one must accept upon himself not to do the sin again. This makes three parts of Jewish repentance since there is no priest involved.
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #511 on: August 26, 2014, 10:34:37 AM »
I'm still waiting for the verdict from our resident poskim here, as a shulchan aruch abiding Jew, may I go to an AGT show? does it depend on whether I consider it fun? how about TiVo'ing it, youtube?

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #512 on: August 26, 2014, 11:05:18 AM »
there is one major component of tshuva which is not part of Christian sacrament iinm, and that is kabalah al ha'asid, that one must accept upon himself not to do the sin again. This makes three parts of Jewish repentance since there is no priest involved.
What happens if the same sin is committed again?
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #513 on: August 26, 2014, 12:12:24 PM »
What happens if the same sin is committed again?
so tshuva again and do a better job this time
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #514 on: August 26, 2014, 12:57:05 PM »
Dont want to get too philosophical here but whys that depressing?
What could be more depressing than being a rasha?
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #515 on: August 26, 2014, 01:04:41 PM »
If you would go past the first few chapters you would see why that isn't reason to be depressed, but I guess that's a whole other discussion best kept to Freddy's thread...
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #516 on: August 26, 2014, 01:09:25 PM »

What could be more depressing than being a rasha?
Of course that could be depressing, I just have a difficult time comprehending how we can all be considered a Rasha when what defines us as a Rasha is impossible (at least in our generation) to avoid.

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #517 on: August 26, 2014, 01:34:25 PM »
I'm still waiting for the verdict from our resident poskim here, as a shulchan aruch abiding Jew, may I go to an AGT show? does it depend on whether I consider it fun? how about TiVo'ing it, youtube?
You are looking for trouble AKA fun
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #518 on: August 26, 2014, 02:03:45 PM »
Of course that could be depressing, I just have a difficult time comprehending how we can all be considered a Rasha when what defines us as a Rasha is impossible (at least in our generation) to avoid.
We may not be Resha'im relative to others (שם המושאל) but in the absolute sense of the word (שם התואר) we are...
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #519 on: August 26, 2014, 02:11:17 PM »

We may not be Resha'im relative to others (שם המושאל) but in the absolute sense of the word (שם התואר) we are...
I don't understand this stuff, isn't our madreiga only relevant to our own potential. Who cares how we compare to others?

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #520 on: August 26, 2014, 02:11:21 PM »
If you would go past the first few chapters you would see why that isn't reason to be depressed, but I guess that's a whole other discussion best kept to Freddy's thread...
I did go past the first few chapters. I found most of the sefer depressing from this sense
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #521 on: August 26, 2014, 02:32:25 PM »
I don't understand this stuff, isn't our madreiga only relevant to our own potential. Who cares how we compare to others?
It's OK, you won't go to Gehenom if that's what you're worried about (as long as you served Hashem to the best of your ability that is) :)
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Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #522 on: August 26, 2014, 02:42:02 PM »
It's OK, you won't go to Gehenom if that's what you're worried about (as long as you served Hashem to the best of your ability that is) :)

:) phew!
But, It's more fundamental than that. It's about a perspective on humanity, and the world .  But as I said, I don't want to get too philosophical here.

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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #523 on: August 28, 2014, 10:14:45 PM »
Source?
baba basra 57b
 just to be clear i was in response to the comment about  going to a show and walking out when it becomes inappropriate, to that i responded that the gemara says someone who puts himself in a path where he can see something inappropriate is called a rasha. the gemara is clearly reffering to someone who doesnt look, yet he is called a rasha for putting himself  in a situation
as far as actually staying and viewing that would probably be a issur deoraisa
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Re: Jewish Boy Tells Dirty Jokes On Americas got Talant
« Reply #524 on: August 28, 2014, 10:17:25 PM »
You're not a Rasha. כי כל העם בשגגה
as  per the gemara in bb. i dont see it being debatable its very clear you are a rasha