Author Topic: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce  (Read 11821 times)

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2014, 12:45:32 AM »
I know, right? Look how professional the video looks.

Dude, don't judge based on one side of the story.
You don't know what's true and what's not.
OMG, I said the video bring tears to my eyes & now I'm judging??
The story's very sad, that's all,

Don't be so quick to pull the trigger

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2014, 12:46:02 AM »
It frustrates me so much when people take up one side if a disagreement, without hearing the other side. How small minded. It boggles the mind.
FTFY
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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2014, 12:47:41 AM »
What a chilul hashem this is even if the whole story would be true to go to the secular media about it is definitely not allowed halachicly and anyone involved will burn for a long time for this

They probably hired a pr firm to publicize and make a chilul hashem out of it

From similar stories that I know of there usually isn't anything that has any truth to it written and all it is is a way to make a sensation out of it and try to force the husband to give a get that will be posul
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2014, 12:49:32 AM »
OMG, I said the video bring tears to my eyes & now I'm judging??
The story's very sad, that's all,

Don't be so quick to pull the trigger
it's unfortunate that you fell for this scheme
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2014, 12:49:37 AM »
OMG, I said the video bring tears to my eyes & now I'm judging??
The story's very sad, that's all,

Don't be so quick to pull the trigger
Yes ur judging. Ur judging the husband that he's the bad guy.
If you knew 100% that she is faking, would it bring tears to ur eyes?

Now, I'm not saying she's faking, cuz Idk. But I'm not "judging" This video and feeling bad from the get go. You gotta know facts.
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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2014, 01:01:11 AM »
OMG, I said the video bring tears to my eyes & now I'm judging??
The story's very sad, that's all,

Don't be so quick to pull the trigger
that may not be what made him say that.....
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2014, 01:01:45 AM »
I personally know of two stories where people were spreading all sorts of rumors about the guy refusing to give a get. It turned out that all the guy(s) wanted was to be able to see his kids after the divorce, which the girl was refusing. One of them due to the tremendous pressure that the community placed on him, he gave a get and the lady took the kids and moved out of the country.

Giving a get has nothing to do with custody of children. I think it's disgusting to link the two. It should be decided in court or by a rov/BD.

I dont listen to any of these stories and definitely not spread them on social media outlets. Please dont spread stories unless you actually know both sides, there are other people that can be getting hurt!!
When something is all over the place I don't call that spreading it. I'm not saying I believe her 100%, there are parts of her story I think are prob exaggerated. But what made me lean towards her side is the recordings on her website of him and from him saying that she doesn't want a get. Yes I don't know the full story but one should not say I just want to make her suffer and either way I'm not giving a get for 5 years. That's just gross.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2014, 01:03:04 AM »
you are missing the big picture. stop looking at individual cases. you either believe there is a problem or you don't.
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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2014, 02:20:24 AM »
you are missing the big picture. stop looking at individual cases. you either believe there is a problem or you don't.
That's how hashem made the world. Am yisroel had agunos even when the beis hamikdash was up and sanhedring in control
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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2014, 02:41:10 AM »
One thing that raises a red flag in her story, she claims "sometimes locking her in a room for weeks at a time and denying her enough to eat", well obviously the Judge doesn't believe her, bec. if he would believe her he would never grant an animal like that custody at all.


#somethingsfishy

But who knows, maybe it's true.

The truth is when it comes to divorces you can almost never know which side is right.
I know him from when we were classmates years ago. I'll believe anything she says. He was an animal at that age already.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2014, 07:24:42 AM »
seriosuly??? you guys are bringing proof from a recording on HER freaking web site a documnet from her website. we are not living in 1850, it takes all of 2 min to make an audio recording of anything you want. same with documentation.

How do you know SHE is not an animal? or that she has been an animal since "that" age already?

TWO SIDES no matter wht

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2014, 08:31:14 AM »
seriosuly??? you guys are bringing proof from a recording on HER freaking web site a documnet from her website. we are not living in 1850, it takes all of 2 min to make an audio recording of anything you want. same with documentation.

How do you know SHE is not an animal? or that she has been an animal since "that" age already?

TWO SIDES no matter wht

+1. People don't know how to think for themselves.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2014, 08:35:20 AM »
+1. People don't know how to think for themselves.
ive got me a situation right now, where someone is "accusing" me of certain things, and on paper they are all 100% true. Meaning all the things he claims are true and if he were to publicize these things it could possibly put me in a bad light. HOWEVER, what he does not know (nor to this point cared to ask) is that every single one of his claims were there prior to my taking possession of his item/s.

So yeah there is always another side to the story, many times making one side obsolete. 

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2014, 12:58:23 PM »
Few points about this case

1. For some reason most females that I know instantly believe her side of the story and they cannot see that this is a carefully prepared PR campaign. I find that most males seem to think that you should first hear both sides.

2. There is a PR firm running this and they are purposely using catchphrases meant to draw emotions. Most of the stories have many holes; For example the story of her locked in a room for months. In other documents she says that she worked all the time, and when she came home she had to stay in specific rooms. This was when she was staying at her in-laws, and from other documents it seems that he was not even in town most of the time during her "confinement". Same goes for "he only gave her 2 meals a day", I still cannot understand that part and why everyone feels bad for her, I would assume there were pots and pans and she can prepare meals, it is as if he was supposed to provide her with cooked meals? I do not know their family dynamics but by most frum couples the wife prepares the meals, unless the father is a stay at home or for other reasons. There are many more of the stories she tells that if you just stop and think about it and try imagining how it took place it just seems stretched.

3. From people who I have spoken to, it seems that they both have great issues, he has some very big issues and she her own set. I am not going to start writing every rumor I heard unless people are interested in hearing them. My point is that you must hear both sides, or better yet we should hear nothing and let them work this out not on social media

4. She is clearly after money, in her lawsuit she asks for $25k a month in support, plus school, clothes, food & insurance for the kids.

5. They keep bringing up his "crime family", they trying to feed to the media that she was specially chosen for this mafia family because she comes from a broken home and therefore they will use her and get free work out of her. If you just stop and think for a second this sounds so cookey, it is just meant to draw emotions for unintelligent readers. (It is very clear he married her for her looks and she for his money, and so I have heard)

6. He obviously did not treat her well, if not why would she be leaving him? There is no denying that he did some wrong stuff. But it is very possible that she does have some other person lined up and therefore wants to leave.

7. Let us all remember Pearl Perry Reich, they are good friends now (Stein and Reich), Reich went full media mode against her "abusive" husband. Once she got her get, she already had her nerd boyfriend and now her kids are gantz fein modern which she promised would never happen. In these cases the woman is always coached to claim "abuse" to get her way, it is documented.

I can go on and on, I think they should work this out themselves and not involve the whole world and make a huge chilul hashem.

Whenever a PR firm is involved you cannot believe most of what you read.


(I am preparing my own lawsuit against him, I also want 25k a month, I am working with a PR firm and figuring out good stories to make up, for example "I met him on the street and he saw that I was untucked, he therefore figured he will draw me into his scams and then suddenly stuck out his hand grabbed my hand and said some scary hebrew curse words - sounded like "mulem a leikem" - which obviously means he wanted to kill me on the spot.)

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2014, 01:12:56 PM »
I know him from when we were classmates years ago. I'll believe anything she says. He was an animal at that age already.
Wow!

Just curious why she can't convince the judge of that. If everyone that knows him, even his childhood classmates, knows he's an animal, why does he have custody?

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2014, 01:21:52 PM »
Whenever a PR firm is involved you cannot believe most of what you read.
do consider what you posted fair and balanced?
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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2014, 01:33:00 PM »
do consider what you posted fair and balanced?
I do.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2014, 01:33:40 PM »
I think they are both wrong and should work this out like civilized people.

All I see is:
She filed lawsuit after lawsuit for thousands of dollars
She is waging a full on social and traditional media war against him
She is bashmutzing him in every possible way

He claims he just wants normal custody.

Let them go to family court or a beis din and figure it out. Just because she has a PR firm making him look bad it doesn't mean he should not have the right of custody.

http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2014/06/rivky-stein-and-yoel-weiss-divorce.html

Interesting take, and lots of comments.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2014, 01:33:58 PM »
For me, the fact that Tim T is vouching that this guy was an animal as a kid already, is a game changer.

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Re: Orthodox Jewish Woman Fights for the Right to a Divorce
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2014, 01:37:52 PM »
For me, the fact that Tim T is vouching that this guy was an animal as a kid already, is a game changer.
nothing against Tim but really? :o