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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.


Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43018.msg1439199#msg1439199
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #840 on: August 11, 2017, 12:09:31 PM »
Did this 3lber in 7 hrs
 Flavor was one of the best I've made but was not as soft and tender as I would have preffered.
I've been working in kind of the blind recently as my thermometer is broken.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #841 on: August 11, 2017, 12:16:04 PM »
Did this 3lber in 7 hrs
 Flavor was one of the best I've made but was not as soft and tender as I would have preffered.
I've been working in kind of the blind recently as my thermometer is broken.

Smoking part of a brisket,  is imo, like eating part of a cake.

I mean,  you ate cake, but you didn't do it right.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #842 on: August 11, 2017, 12:16:25 PM »
Did this 3lber in 7 hrs
 Flavor was one of the best I've made but was not as soft and tender as I would have preffered.
I've been working in kind of the blind recently as my thermometer is broken.

Nice lookin bark

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #843 on: August 11, 2017, 12:22:08 PM »
Did this 3lber in 7 hrs
 Flavor was one of the best I've made but was not as soft and tender as I would have preffered.
I've been working in kind of the blind recently as my thermometer is broken.

Have you ever tried to sous vide for 8-20 hours and then smoke it?
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« Reply #844 on: August 11, 2017, 12:42:16 PM »
Smoking part of a brisket,  is imo, like eating part of a cake.

I mean,  you ate cake, but you didn't do it right.
Meh, diffrence is minor, alot less thab throwing it in the oven after 6 hrs on the smoker.
Either way it was just little midnight snack.

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« Reply #845 on: August 11, 2017, 12:44:05 PM »
Have you ever tried to sous vide for 8-20 hours and then smoke it?
Not yet, why would I want to add another step to the process. And according to meat head the smoke flavor only gets absorbed during the first few hours.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #846 on: August 11, 2017, 12:51:13 PM »
Not yet, why would I want to add another step to the process. And according to meat head the smoke flavor only gets absorbed during the first few hoursuntil 140 degrees.
FTFY

it has with the temperature, not with the time


Sorry  i see now that 140 has with the smoke ring.  although i did read once that it applies to smoke flavor as well
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #848 on: August 11, 2017, 01:17:49 PM »
http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2016/08/sous-vide-barbecue-smoked-bbq-brisket-texas-recipe.html

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  I've tasted barbecued brisket all over the country, and, while you can certainly find some truly transcendent barbecued brisket, the vast majority of the time, it's a dry, bland disappointment.

Yah, I'm not taking this post seriously after that

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« Reply #849 on: August 11, 2017, 03:25:36 PM »
Yah, I'm not taking this post seriously after that
Why? Most of what I read seems to agree with that. A few places are great but most are not.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #850 on: August 11, 2017, 03:29:14 PM »
Not yet, why would I want to add another step to the process. And according to meat head the smoke flavor only gets absorbed during the first few hours.

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2016/08/sous-vide-barbecue-smoked-bbq-brisket-texas-recipe.html

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Because, it makes the meat more tender first, at a lower temperature -- as the link above says, "Combining sous vide cooking with actual smoke from the grill makes for brisket that's moist and tender yet still smoky, with a great bark."
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« Reply #851 on: August 11, 2017, 03:37:02 PM »

+1

Because, it makes the meat more tender first, at a lower temperature -- as the link above says, "Combining sous vide cooking with actual smoke from the grill makes for brisket that's moist and tender yet still smoky, with a great bark."

I get that from my smoker, every time

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #852 on: August 11, 2017, 04:03:31 PM »
Have you ever tried to sous vide for 8-20 hours and then smoke it?
Yes was terrible

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« Reply #853 on: August 11, 2017, 04:05:29 PM »
Yah, I'm not taking this post seriously after that
Agreed!

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« Reply #854 on: August 11, 2017, 04:09:55 PM »
Smoking part of a brisket,  is imo, like eating part of a cake.

I mean,  you ate cake, but you didn't do it right.
I only smoke 2nd cuts. Why would I want the dry part?  Yes I know not when u do it it's juicy and delicious. But really when u smoke the whole thing what part would you rather? We all know it's the 2nd cut. So why not just smoke that?

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« Reply #855 on: August 11, 2017, 04:24:19 PM »
I only smoke 2nd cuts. Why would I want the dry part?  Yes I know not when u do it it's juicy and delicious. But really when u smoke the whole thing what part would you rather? We all know it's the 2nd cut. So why not just smoke that?

I like all of it

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« Reply #856 on: August 11, 2017, 04:25:02 PM »
I like all of it
I know but u not going to tell me the 2nd cut not better

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« Reply #857 on: August 11, 2017, 04:32:35 PM »
I know but u not going to tell me the 2nd cut not better

My guests have different preferences. If I make whole,  everyone happy.  And I've convinced myself that it all taste better whole

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« Reply #858 on: August 11, 2017, 04:35:42 PM »
I need some thoughts on this. Making BBQ Sunday afternoon smoking brisket and jumbo ribs. I use to wake up at 4 to put everything on. Maybe I'm getting old but really don't want to do that. So I was thinking to put it in the electric smoker (so can sleep and control temps) at around 1 o'clock on like 175. Then in the morning either kettle on like 250. Till I hit desired temp.

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« Reply #859 on: August 11, 2017, 04:53:38 PM »
I need some thoughts on this. Making BBQ Sunday afternoon smoking brisket and jumbo ribs. I use to wake up at 4 to put everything on. Maybe I'm getting old but really don't want to do that. So I was thinking to put it in the electric smoker (so can sleep and control temps) at around 1 o'clock on like 175. Then in the morning either kettle on like 250. Till I hit desired temp.

Can you put electric one on a timer?