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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.


Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #555 on: October 13, 2016, 03:22:53 PM »
But I dont have one.  I use a pizza pan

Pizza pan seems like a much cheaper way to achieve the same results. Cover makes sense. Turkey hook I know I will never use.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #556 on: October 13, 2016, 03:48:25 PM »
Pizza pan seems like a much cheaper way to achieve the same results. Cover makes sense. Turkey hook I know I will never use.

I'm planning to buy the ash tray, since the pizza pan method works but is annoying since it isn't attached adn doesn't pick up together with the coal basket.

You will use turkey hook. To smoke a turkey.  also so that you can smoke chickens hanging breast down, which is obviusly the better way to smoke chickens, but you need turkey hook for that because there's no where on bottom to snag the chicken.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #557 on: October 13, 2016, 04:02:40 PM »
I'm planning to buy the ash tray, since the pizza pan method works but is annoying since it isn't attached adn doesn't pick up together with the coal basket.

You will use turkey hook. To smoke a turkey.  also so that you can smoke chickens hanging breast down, which is obviusly the better way to smoke chickens, but you need turkey hook for that because there's no where on bottom to snag the chicken.

We all like chicken bottoms so I'll probably always smoke pieces, not whole chicken. And we're not turkey eaters, other than shwarma
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #558 on: October 13, 2016, 04:30:43 PM »
We all like chicken bottoms so I'll probably always smoke pieces, not whole chicken. And we're not turkey eaters, other than shwarma

As a general matter, I think that chickens taste much better when cooked whole, smoked or otherwise.

Ok, fair enough on turkey.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #559 on: October 13, 2016, 04:35:03 PM »
As a general matter, I think that chickens taste much better when cooked whole, smoked or otherwise.

Ok, fair enough on turkey.

i like separate pieces because then I don't have to separate pieces.

also, tops and bottoms cook differently
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #560 on: October 13, 2016, 04:38:33 PM »
i like separate pieces because then I don't have to separate pieces.

also, tops and bottoms cook differently

yes, but both tops and bottoms taste better when it's cooked whole. I can't explain why. It's just how it is.

It's the same way pickles taste better cut. They just do.

And sandwiches taste better when cut, and eaten from middle.  They just do.

And meat tastes better sliced against the grain.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #561 on: October 13, 2016, 04:42:25 PM »
yes, but both tops and bottoms taste better when it's cooked whole. I can't explain why. It's just how it is.

It's the same way pickles taste better cut. They just do.

And sandwiches taste better when cut, and eaten from middle.  They just do.

And meat tastes better sliced against the grain.

See wiki.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #562 on: October 13, 2016, 04:53:08 PM »
From Wiki:

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Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside.
Is it okay if I take the bite myself or does it need to be someone else?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #563 on: October 14, 2016, 12:43:53 AM »
The wiki is rules of life. (I'm not so sure about the pickles but if it's in the wiki with other such important rules I will except it)

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« Reply #564 on: October 14, 2016, 12:56:06 AM »
Looking for some advice. I'm Making a pastrami for the holiday, pastrami is easy because smoke it till 150 fridge and steam the day u want to eat it (it can stay in the fridge up to a week after smoking) so that works our great. The question is I want to do the same to a brisket so thinking out load here, smoke it till 150 fridge (or maybe freeze?) it and steam day of ( I know we will have no bark but we all do the crunch and have no bark anyway). Or crunch till 203 and light steam just to warm if so fridge or freeze?  Looking forward to hearing plan on smoking in the morning
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #565 on: October 14, 2016, 01:07:03 AM »
Looking for some advise. I'm Making a pastrami for the holiday, pastrami is easy because smoke it till 150 fridge and steam the day u want to eat it (it can stay in the fridge up to a week after smoking) so that works our great. The question is I want to do the same to a brisket so thinking out load here, smoke it till 150 fridge (or maybe freeze?) it and steam day of ( I know we will have no bark but we all do the crunch and have no bark anyway). Or crunch till 203 and light steam just to warm if so fridge or freeze?  Looking forward to hearing plan on smoking in the morning
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #566 on: October 14, 2016, 01:07:07 AM »
Looking for some advise. I'm Making a pastrami for the holiday, pastrami is easy because smoke it till 150 fridge and steam the day u want to eat it (it can stay in the fridge up to a week after smoking) so that works our great. The question is I want to do the same to a brisket so thinking out load here, smoke it till 150 fridge (or maybe freeze?) it and steam day of ( I know we will have no bark but we all do the crunch and have no bark anyway). Or crunch till 203 and light steam just to warm if so fridge or freeze?  Looking forward to hearing plan on smoking in the morning
Smoke like normal till perfection
Then freeze it
Reheat it day of
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« Reply #567 on: October 14, 2016, 01:08:49 AM »
Smoke like normal till perfection
Then freeze it
Reheat it day of
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #568 on: October 14, 2016, 01:10:20 AM »
U don't smoke, when I want advice on how to open threads I'll let u know

I smoke. 3 briskets going now in fact. and I agree with his advice
 
Smoke like normal till perfection
Then freeze it
Reheat it day of

Even with crutch if you have good bark before you crutch you should still have bark left.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #569 on: October 14, 2016, 01:10:30 AM »
U don't smoke, when I want advice on how to open threads I'll let u know
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