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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.

Quote from: henche on May 30, 2018, 03:42:16 PM

Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43018.msg1439199#msg1439199
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #600 on: October 23, 2016, 03:30:20 PM »
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #601 on: October 23, 2016, 03:50:00 PM »
Quote from: aygart on October 06, 2016, 06:33:52 PM
I wanted to make a rib eye roast for yom tov on a charcoal grill per Meathead with Mrs O'Leary rub. How can I have it both cooked right yet hot for the seuda?


Quote from: grodnoking on October 07, 2016, 01:05:09 AM
Nothing wrong woth grilling on yom tov. If you wana be safe take a rather large grill, right befor yom tov put in a large amount of coals, position them to stay lit for awhile. My grill was in the 400s still 3 hours later.


Quote from: davidmal on October 07, 2016, 01:07:36 AM
I've done this but you have to be very precise with your timing

I throw it in the oven
Then sear it for a few minutes slice it and serve it

https://youtu.be/GZ4xl7XJM08

Salt pepper

In the end for the first days I left the grill going into Yom Tov with the roast on and popped in an old analog thermometer through the vent but it wasn't quite ready on time and we needed to wait for it a bit.  in the end it was a little overdone and I think it is because the thermometer is off but it was still delicious. Sorry no pics from Yom Tov.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #602 on: October 23, 2016, 03:55:18 PM »
Quote from: aygart on October 23, 2016, 03:50:00 PM


In the end for the first days I left the grill going into Yom Tov with the roast on and popped in an old analog thermometer through the vent but it wasn't quite ready on time and we needed to wait for it a bit.  in the end it was a little overdone and I think it is because the thermometer is off but it was still delicious. Sorry no pics from Yom Tov.
We messed up too. We ended up with very soft (because of the sous-vide) and very over done meat (because the grill was too hot). It was very unfortunate, and next time I'll insist on cooking the main dish.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #603 on: October 23, 2016, 04:05:17 PM »
Quote from: grodnoking on October 23, 2016, 03:55:18 PM
We messed up too. We ended up with very soft (because of the sous-vide) and very over done meat (because the grill was too hot). It was very unfortunate, and next time I'll insist on cooking the main dish.

i'm confused. it was dry but tender?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #604 on: October 23, 2016, 04:07:40 PM »
Quote from: ushdadude on October 23, 2016, 04:05:17 PM
i'm confused. it was dry but tender?
The meat was confused too. It was overcooked but moist, and not so tender. Dont ask.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #605 on: October 30, 2016, 03:58:04 PM »
What are the advantages of the Pti Barrel over simply using a Weber Kettle other than capacity?
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« Reply #606 on: October 30, 2016, 04:16:29 PM »
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What are the advantages of the Pti Barrel over simply using a Weber Kettle other than capacity?

consistent temperature without babysitting
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« Reply #607 on: October 30, 2016, 05:09:41 PM »
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consistent temperature without babysitting
It seems to me that the PBC is very difficult to access the charcoal during cooking in case you need to get rid of ash etc is that the case? I did not have a difficult time maintaining temp on a weber travel kettle but it was small and after some time the ash became an issue and was just not going down to the ashtray. I would imagine this is less of a problem in general with both the larger Webers and the PBC, but what is your experience?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #608 on: October 30, 2016, 06:22:11 PM »
Quote from: aygart on October 30, 2016, 05:09:41 PM
It seems to me that the PBC is very difficult to access the charcoal during cooking in case you need to get rid of ash etc is that the case? I did not have a difficult time maintaining temp on a weber travel kettle but it was small and after some time the ash became an issue and was just not going down to the ashtray. I would imagine this is less of a problem in general with both the larger Webers and the PBC, but what is your experience?


You'd never want to access the ashes during a cook on the pbc.  It's the type of thing that you light it, hang the meat,  go back inside and do work for a few hours,  and then cone and pull it off when its done
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #609 on: October 30, 2016, 07:58:54 PM »
Quote from: aygart on October 30, 2016, 05:09:41 PM
It seems to me that the PBC is very difficult to access the charcoal during cooking in case you need to get rid of ash etc is that the case? I did not have a difficult time maintaining temp on a weber travel kettle but it was small and after some time the ash became an issue and was just not going down to the ashtray. I would imagine this is less of a problem in general with both the larger Webers and the PBC, but what is your experience?

i do the snake method on my weber kettle and it's pretty consistent too. can't cook too long though. i always end up crunching
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #610 on: October 31, 2016, 06:15:36 AM »
Does the crunch need to be davka in silver foil? Can I put it in a Lodge cast iron Dutch oven instead?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #611 on: October 31, 2016, 07:38:59 AM »
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Does the crunch need to be davka in silver foil? Can I put it in a Lodge cast iron Dutch oven instead?

The point of the crutch is to get past the stall without drying out.  The stall is caused by surface cooling of the meat when it's liquid evaporates.   If you wrap in aluminum foil, then nothing evaporates.  If you put in a Dutch oven,  I think there would be less evaporation,  but still some.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #612 on: November 01, 2016, 05:40:42 PM »
Quote from: henche on October 31, 2016, 07:38:59 AM
The point of the crutch is to get past the stall without drying out.  The stall is caused by surface cooling of the meat when it's liquid evaporates.   If you wrap in aluminum foil, then nothing evaporates.  If you put in a Dutch oven,  I think there would be less evaporation,  but still some.
Yup, even when doing the crutch if you dont wrap really tight you lose the benefit of crutching.
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Re: Smoking Meats
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« Reply #616 on: November 25, 2016, 02:23:24 PM »
Quote from: aygart on November 25, 2016, 01:36:31 PM
The Amazon reviews seem to indicate that the electric one has improved immensely with the more recent models and the review is based on a model from ten years ago.
Could be, I don't have an opinion on either of these. But meathead is usually pretty reliable.
Bottom line is they're both entry level smokers, so they're probably not be the best but are safe bets if youre not Sure smoking is for you.
On the other hand, if its within your budget I would recommend the weber Smokey mountain.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #617 on: November 26, 2016, 06:21:14 PM »
I smoked a turkey
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« Reply #618 on: November 26, 2016, 06:26:43 PM »
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I smoked a turkey
Pics?  How was ?
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« Reply #619 on: November 26, 2016, 08:35:09 PM »
Quote from: Sport on November 26, 2016, 06:26:43 PM
Pics?  How was ?

Was good.  I ate it two days after smoking.  Wasnt best thing I've ever smoked
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