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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.


Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43018.msg1439199#msg1439199
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1120 on: November 27, 2017, 02:54:04 PM »
no. i was in a rush to leave the house.  i regret that partyes. not because it was awesome food, just because it was fun


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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1121 on: November 27, 2017, 02:57:35 PM »

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1123 on: November 28, 2017, 11:51:45 AM »
okay im seriously looking at this. I am not sure if it is tall enough or if the steel is strong enough. The next size up is defiantly good steel and size but it is another 200. thoughts?

https://greenmountaingrills.com/products/grills/davy-crockett-pellet-grill-wifi/

The reasons are as follows:

1. the grease plate opens up so I can cook directly on the fire if I want to sear a steak (taking the place of any other bbq)
2. the wifi allows me to control remotely + comes with meat temp Gage so I do not need to spend another 100 bucks for that.
3. compact so I can take it to the park or camping
4. it has a battery backup in case of power outage (I think)

Cons:

It may be too small.
specs so not say the steal grade of body.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1124 on: November 28, 2017, 04:38:29 PM »
Okay. It def is too small....

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1125 on: November 30, 2017, 02:38:16 PM »
Just bought this bad boy https://greenmountaingrills.com/products/grills/daniel-boone-pellet-grill-wifi/

I also just asked a rabbi about all of the different wood flavors and blends... has anyone gotten a OK about this from their LOR?

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« Reply #1126 on: November 30, 2017, 02:41:51 PM »
Just bought this bad boy https://greenmountaingrills.com/products/grills/daniel-boone-pellet-grill-wifi/

I also just asked a rabbi about all of the different wood flavors and blends... has anyone gotten a OK about this from their LOR?

Looks awesome

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1127 on: December 03, 2017, 07:36:29 AM »
I also just asked a rabbi about all of the different wood flavors and blends... has anyone gotten a OK about this from their LOR?
Many flavored wood chips refer to the type of wood, not added flavours (see attached image-all flavors are just types of wood)
If there are added flavours such as wine barrel chips, then you will have an issue. Aylor.
Ive been to several plants adding which  produce both liquid smoke and flavored wood chips. They were actually using the liquid smoke to flavor the wood chips. In such a scenario you can also have an issue.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1128 on: December 04, 2017, 11:49:35 AM »
Many flavored wood chips refer to the type of wood, not added flavours (see attached image-all flavors are just types of wood)
If there are added flavours such as wine barrel chips, then you will have an issue. Aylor.
Ive been to several plants adding which  produce both liquid smoke and flavored wood chips. They were actually using the liquid smoke to flavor the wood chips. In such a scenario you can also have an issue.

Liquid smoke has kashrus sensitivity?

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« Reply #1129 on: December 04, 2017, 11:53:02 AM »
Many flavored wood chips refer to the type of wood, not added flavours (see attached image-all flavors are just types of wood)
If there are added flavours such as wine barrel chips, then you will have an issue. Aylor.
Ive been to several plants adding which  produce both liquid smoke and flavored wood chips. They were actually using the liquid smoke to flavor the wood chips. In such a scenario you can also have an issue.

Attachment didnt go through

No descriptions online give detail about addetives or process- things my LOR needs to know. What does your LOR say?

 Why is it okay to assume the flavored wood chips such as apple hickory and maple are just types of wood without anything added?

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« Reply #1130 on: December 04, 2017, 12:09:52 PM »
Attachment didnt go through

No descriptions online give detail about addetives or process- things my LOR needs to know. What does your LOR say?

 Why is it okay to assume the flavored wood chips such as apple hickory and maple are just types of wood without anything added?

Maple is a type of tree.  Apple is also.  Hickory is also.  Apple Hickory is not.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1131 on: December 04, 2017, 12:12:20 PM »

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1132 on: December 04, 2017, 12:32:53 PM »
I know that but apply try wood doesn't necessarily give out apple flavor:)


In the link below Apply is in the same kind of flavor as turkey and cherry ... and I have a feeling those are not types of wood

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00201BFX8/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i7?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B01F2YP954&pd_rd_r=4fa09050-d916-11e7-a77e-4f4ee7533ebd&pd_rd_w=MyFg8&pd_rd_wg=zOigG&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=9X6GJ7X2NZN4QK2XQJJB&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=e6624b56-7cc1-411f-9d12-9cc8feb6c214&pf_rd_i=desktop&th=1

Well, cherry is.  Turkey isn't.

I'm not sure if the rest of those have added flavors.

I was thinking more like this. https://www.amazon.com/CookinPellets-40PM-Perfect-Smoking-Pellets/dp/B00819OICI

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1133 on: December 04, 2017, 12:45:42 PM »
Well, cherry is.  Turkey isn't.

I'm not sure if the rest of those have added flavors.

I was thinking more like this. https://www.amazon.com/CookinPellets-40PM-Perfect-Smoking-Pellets/dp/B00819OICI

right this product also makes it clear that it is not actual wood blended.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1134 on: December 05, 2017, 12:38:01 PM »
My LOR wrote in response to a couple brands (green mountain, trager) I sent him

The first is "made out of 100% kiln dried sawdust that never touches the floor. Our pellets are held together with the natural lignin in the wood. There are no fillers or additives here".

The second as well "No fillers, no unnatural additives, just pure 100% virgin hardwood for unmatched flavor."

Seems like %100 wood, just from various species of trees that produce different results of flavor in the meat.

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« Reply #1135 on: December 08, 2017, 08:18:25 AM »

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1136 on: December 08, 2017, 12:07:28 PM »
yes its been that price since black friday

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1137 on: December 12, 2017, 11:53:39 AM »
Sorry for the cross-post, but figured it's worth a mention here too.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=87894.msg1848890#msg1848890

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1138 on: December 12, 2017, 04:03:02 PM »
Liquid smoke has kashrus sensitivity?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1139 on: December 12, 2017, 04:06:41 PM »
Liquid smoke has kashrus sensitivity?

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