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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.


Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43018.msg1439199#msg1439199
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1160 on: December 31, 2017, 10:38:01 PM »
If u don’t mind me asking, what In the world are u smoking
This. Took 4nhours. Tasted great, but wasn't as buttery soft as real ribs. I did take it off in mid 190s or so cuz it was getting late.
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« Reply #1161 on: December 31, 2017, 10:39:09 PM »
This. Took 4nhours. Tasted great, but wasn't as buttery soft as real ribs. I did take it off in mid 190s or so cuz it was getting late.
Nothing like taking seasons crap and making it something eatable

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1162 on: December 31, 2017, 10:40:52 PM »
I did take it off in mid 190s or so cuz it was getting late.
This seems to be the theme of your smokes.   

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« Reply #1163 on: December 31, 2017, 10:42:00 PM »
This seems to be the theme of your smokes.
When I did overnight brisket it was amazing and not rushed.
I really though this one would go quicker.
I really do need to start this stuff earlier in the day!
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« Reply #1164 on: December 31, 2017, 10:43:00 PM »
When I did overnight brisket it was amazing and not rushed.
I really though this one would go quicker.
I really do need to start this stuff earlier in the day!
I always start early, you have plenty of time for resting. Also at 190 even normal ribs will be a little chewy, so for that crappy meat I would call it a success

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1165 on: December 31, 2017, 10:50:24 PM »
When I did overnight brisket it was amazing and not rushed.
I really though this one would go quicker.
I really do need to start this stuff earlier in the day!

was this covered during the 4 hr smoking process? Even at these small portions, at 14 degrees outdoors, it would need to have some actual heat.
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« Reply #1166 on: December 31, 2017, 10:51:12 PM »
Huh?
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« Reply #1167 on: December 31, 2017, 11:08:50 PM »
was this covered during the 4 hr smoking process? Even at these small portions, at 14 degrees outdoors, it would need to have some actual heat.
I’m dying. U can’t “smoke” if it’s not covered

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« Reply #1168 on: December 31, 2017, 11:15:17 PM »
I’m dying. U can’t “smoke” if it’s not covered

yes, and it's below freezing over there...
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« Reply #1169 on: January 01, 2018, 12:47:59 AM »
yes, and it's below freezing over there...
I’m going to have to go with this
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« Reply #1170 on: January 01, 2018, 01:00:00 AM »
I’m going to have to go with this
I got it. Truly deserves a facepalm.

The assumption being that the picture I took is demonstrative of the cooking situation the entire 4 hours. I. E. Uncovered.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1171 on: January 03, 2018, 11:04:59 AM »
Why'd u do hot and fast? I've never seen anyone say to do that with brisket. Have u don't brisket low n slow yet?

I didnt have time before shabbas to do low and slow. The truth is its all about the inner temp that makes the fat break down and the meat tender. However you will loose the smokey rings (or I lost the rings because it was covered the whole time) I certainly did not loose the wood flavor. My smoker works just like a convection oven so I can cook it just as a would in the oven.

I also smoked ribs in the freezing temps...

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« Reply #1172 on: January 03, 2018, 11:06:01 AM »
To bad I couldnt get the snow in the picture because that certainly added to the vibes.

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« Reply #1173 on: January 03, 2018, 11:07:40 AM »
I didnt have time before shabbas to do low and slow. The truth is its all about the inner temp that makes the fat break down and the meat tender. However you will loose the smokey rings (or I lost the rings because it was covered the whole time) I certainly did not loose the wood flavor. My smoker works just like a convection oven so I can cook it just as a would in the oven.

I also smoked ribs in the freezing temps...
It's kept just about temp it's about how long it takes to grt there and giving it time to break down and render.
I've done ribs that I ran out of time on at about 170.i put in hot oven till 203 and it didn't even come close to when I did ribs that slowly came up to 203.
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« Reply #1174 on: January 03, 2018, 11:08:29 AM »
hot n fast

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« Reply #1175 on: January 03, 2018, 11:09:51 AM »
hot n fast

you can do that in the oven

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« Reply #1176 on: January 03, 2018, 11:09:58 AM »
It's kept just about temp it's about how long it takes to grt there and giving it time to break down and render.
I've done ribs that I ran out of time on at about 170.i put in hot oven till 203 and it didn't even come close to when I did ribs that slowly came up to 203.

I ran out of time with these when temp was 180... so I cranked up my smoker to 350 for a few min and it did wonders...

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« Reply #1177 on: January 03, 2018, 11:10:47 AM »
you can do that in the oven

You can but cooking on real wood is much better...

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« Reply #1178 on: January 03, 2018, 11:20:30 AM »


you can do that in the oven

You can do low and slow in the oven too, but

cooking on real wood is much better...



I ran out of time with these when temp was 180... so I cranked up my smoker to 350 for a few min and it did wonders...
Will not compare to going all the way at 225.believe me. I've done both. The softness tenderness doesn't compare
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« Reply #1179 on: January 03, 2018, 11:22:04 AM »
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