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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.


Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43018.msg1439199#msg1439199
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1606 on: May 29, 2018, 03:18:44 PM »
Anyone have a recommended 'starter' smoker?

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1607 on: May 29, 2018, 03:28:30 PM »
Anyone have a recommended 'starter' smoker?
PBC or webber kattle grill using snake method.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1608 on: May 30, 2018, 02:20:10 AM »
PBC or webber kattle grill using snake method.
snake method looks fun, but if I'm spending $200, may as well spend $300 and get a smoker. (faulty logic, I know).
What's the maalah of PBC over WSM?

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1609 on: May 30, 2018, 08:33:30 AM »
snake method looks fun, but if I'm spending $200, may as well spend $300 and get a smoker. (faulty logic, I know).
What's the maalah of PBC over WSM?
With WK you also have a great grill. PBC is set and forget.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1610 on: May 30, 2018, 11:30:02 AM »
snake method looks fun, but if I'm spending $200, may as well spend $300 and get a smoker. (faulty logic, I know).
What's the maalah of PBC over WSM?
A friend has pbc and wsm and regrets buying pbc. He never uses it anymore.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1611 on: May 30, 2018, 03:42:16 PM »
A friend has pbc and wsm and regrets buying pbc. He never uses it anymore.

1. Who buys both.

2. Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv).  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

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If all you want is convenience, use your oven.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1612 on: May 30, 2018, 05:41:16 PM »
1. Who buys both.

2. Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv).  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.
So lawyers talk like this on purpose so regular ppl donít know what the hell they are saying.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1613 on: May 30, 2018, 06:48:36 PM »
A friend has pbc and wsm and regrets buying pbc. He never uses it anymore.
Ah, but how about WSM vs WK, snake method?
1. Who buys both.

2. Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv).  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.
Very good analysis. I want good food, with fun making it, a little more than set and forget.
So lawyers talk like this on purpose so regular ppl donít know what the hell they are saying.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1614 on: May 30, 2018, 06:52:27 PM »
Depends how much you'll want to cook and how much you want to spend
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« Reply #1615 on: May 30, 2018, 11:30:08 PM »
Ah, but how about WSM vs WK, snake method? Very good analysis. I want good food, with fun making it, a little more than set and forget.
If u ask me pbc is fun without the hassle

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1616 on: May 31, 2018, 07:21:59 AM »


Very good analysis. I want good food, with fun making it, a little more than set and forget.
Then the Wsm is the way to go.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1617 on: May 31, 2018, 10:01:04 AM »
Then the Wsm is the way to go.
Big down side to wsm is limited space. I have done 3 briskets at once in the pbc that would be impossible on wsm

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1618 on: May 31, 2018, 10:49:30 AM »
Big down side to wsm is limited space. I have done 3 briskets at once in the pbc that would be impossible on wsm

That is a lot of brisket. I have never wanted to do 3 briskets.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1619 on: May 31, 2018, 11:34:12 AM »
That is a lot of brisket. I have never wanted to do 3 briskets.
I feel like we need a poll
what do you use? I like the duality of the WK, but I have a gas grill, and practically don't know if I'll end up using a charcoal one too