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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.


Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1920 on: June 04, 2020, 11:57:50 AM »
Looks really good.

You want to blow your mind? Get a short rib from grow and behold.
After the tenderloin I got from bisra, the gbh shirt ribs that I smoked were the best meat I have ever had.
3 ribs at about 3 lbs total raw. I thought it would not be enough for me and the wife but they are so incredibly rich that there was even leftovers. We couldn't finish it.it was absolutely incredible!
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1921 on: June 04, 2020, 12:10:36 PM »
Seasoning on good pieces of meat is like talking about MS, LESS IS MORE!
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« Reply #1922 on: June 04, 2020, 12:40:52 PM »
Seasoning on good pieces of meat is like talking about MS, LESS IS MORE!
This!
When I do brisket all I do is dalmatian rub
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1923 on: June 04, 2020, 12:44:28 PM »
This!
When I do brisket all I do is dalmatian rub
Just had brisket in KS this past weekend and it was good.
I used to go OK all the time for work. One day every week they cooked outdoor on these monster smokers. Guy told me they used a light rub but not what was in it.  :)
I could eat it every day.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1924 on: June 04, 2020, 12:45:21 PM »
This!
When I do brisket all I do is dalmatian rub
salt & pepper?

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« Reply #1925 on: June 04, 2020, 12:48:46 PM »
salt & pepper?
Black and white just like the dog.  :)
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« Reply #1926 on: June 04, 2020, 01:00:04 PM »
Just had brisket in KS this past weekend and it was good.
I used to go OK all the time for work. One day every week they cooked outdoor on these monster smokers. Guy told me they used a light rub but not what was in it.  :)
I could eat it every day.
Now these post i find offensive, its like watch YT clips of the best smokehouses knowing that i have to keep a strict SD with all of it  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #1927 on: June 04, 2020, 01:04:57 PM »
Now these post i find offensive, its like watch YT clips of the best smokehouses knowing that i have to keep a strict SD with all of it  ;D ;D ;D
I thought you were going to say you can't eat the best brisket, only kosher brisket.  ;)
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1928 on: June 04, 2020, 01:12:32 PM »
I thought you were going to say you can't eat the best brisket, only kosher brisket.  ;)
Well ye, i still keep kosher  ;), and, while im dying to try lots of non kosher food i usually don't know what they taste like so its a bit easier, but on smoked food i have had a glimpse of what it taste like and can only imagine how much better it can b   :)
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« Reply #1929 on: June 04, 2020, 01:14:32 PM »
Well ye, i still keep kosher  ;), and, while im dying to try lots of non kosher food i usually don't know what they taste like so its a bit easier, but on smoked food i have had a glimpse of what it taste like and can only imagine how much better it can b   :)
All joking aside. For meats I see no difference. I good smoked brisket can be kosher or not.
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« Reply #1930 on: June 04, 2020, 01:16:24 PM »
All joking aside. For meats I see no difference. I good smoked brisket can be kosher or not.
you'll have to b the judge on that, have u ever been to izzy's in CH?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1931 on: June 04, 2020, 01:46:06 PM »
you'll have to b the judge on that, have u ever been to izzy's in CH?


izzy's was judged by non-kosher eaters and came out on top.


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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1932 on: June 04, 2020, 01:47:56 PM »
Thanks @aygart @henche @Sport @ushdadude !!! BBBR was fantastic!

I never really believed people that ate at Backyard BBQ and said, meh I can do better at home. Until now. I used just an electric smoker, no meat thermometer, and first attempt, and it was really good. I could only imagine what someone with a real smoker and been doing this a while, can do.

One mistake I made was I over trimmed the fat on one of the brisket pieces I think. Also I tried a different rub for the bigger piece because I thought family wouldn't like spicy, but BBBR was perfect and the other one was ok...

Both just going in:



BBR:



Adding this one too, even though it only came out ok:



NICE!
it's and expensive hobby....but at least you get dinner out of it.

Why do you think removing too much ft was a problem? dried out? Did you wrap and put in oven at all?

I recently moved to curing and smoking my own pastrami. Next level amazing.

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« Reply #1933 on: June 04, 2020, 01:49:01 PM »
you'll have to b the judge on that, have u ever been to izzy's in CH?
Not sure if I ever been to CH.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1934 on: June 04, 2020, 01:55:06 PM »

izzy's was judged by non-kosher eaters and came out on top.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1935 on: June 14, 2020, 10:20:44 PM »
https://amazingribs.com/ratings-reviews/pellet-grill/weber-smokefire-pellet-grill

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1936 on: July 07, 2020, 01:10:43 PM »
Question for all you PBC fans. I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and buy one.

Should i get just the PBC and buy 2 or 3 of the necessary accessories or should i just go with the select package (and also buy a turkey hook), is the package worth the extra $70 or do i not need most of the extra accessories? TIA

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1937 on: July 08, 2020, 01:30:15 AM »
No. Common misconception. Salting for kasher is Maybe an hour. Doesn't really sink in.
Salt penetrates an inch a DAY so kasherong has basically minimal impact.

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Looks like Izzy strongly disagrees with you.
Start at 02:00

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« Reply #1938 on: July 08, 2020, 01:34:02 PM »
Looks like Izzy strongly disagrees with you.
Start at 02:00

saw that a while ago never had non kosher meat to know maybe @CountValentine  can testify to this, but i use 50% of BP and salt and its good.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #1939 on: July 08, 2020, 03:27:13 PM »
saw that a while ago never had non kosher meat to know maybe @CountValentine  can testify to this, but i use 50% of BP and salt and its good.
Question is, How much salt does a traditional Texas rub have? maybe more.