Smoking Meats

[ushdadude]

you would probably need to have a timer so the power turns off before you open it

[ushdadude]

Not sure of chabad specifi holdings, but when I asked I was told it's an oven. So treat as such and don't open and once you open then take it off.
On my wsm I just leave it uncovered once I take out the meat and let it die down

How do you do Gerufah and Ketumah on the exposed coals?

[jj1000]

Not sure of chabad specifi holdings, but when I asked I was told it's an oven. So treat as such and don't open and once you open then take it off.
On my wsm I just leave it uncovered once I take out the meat and let it die down

Right, for sure wouldn't check on it. Only open once to take it off.

[jj1000]

you would probably need to have a timer so the power turns off before you open it

Why's that?

How do you do Gerufah and Ketumah on the exposed coals?

There is nothing exposed, on mine the wood pellets are in a side thing. Could cover the the whole side thing with foil I suppose if needed.

[ushdadude]

Why's that?

doesn't the fan turn on and off when you open it?

There is nothing exposed, on mine the wood pellets are in a side thing. Could cover the the whole side thing with foil I suppose if needed.

was thinking that. the burn box is buried. but dunno all the halachos of shehia

[jj1000]

doesn't the fan turn on and off when you open it?

No.

[jj1000]

was thinking that. the burn box is buried. but dunno all the halachos of shehia

Same, hence my @aygart

[ushdadude]

No.

so i guess it would be the same stance as taking something out of the sous vide bath.

[aygart]

1. For tzli garuf vkatum doesn't work in most cases and it would need to be maachal ban drusai before shabbos.

2.In a smoker that opening will allow the coals to flare up with the rush of air it can be a problem to open as long as the coals are burning.

[aygart]

How do you do Gerufah and Ketumah on the exposed coals?

IN a case where it would work, you do it the way they did for 2000 years-by being goref or kotem.

[ushdadude]

IN a case where it would work, you do it the way they did for 200 years-by being goref or kotem.

that's exactly my point. lol

[jj1000]

1. For tzli garuf vkatum doesn't work in most cases and it would need to be maachal ban drusai before shabbos.

2.In a smoker that opening will allow the coals to flare up with the rush of air it can be a problem to open as long as the coals are burning.

Any idea about this model specifically? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S9KKGHQ/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1&psc=1

[imayid2]

1. For tzli garuf vkatum doesn't work in most cases and it would need to be maachal ban drusai before shabbos.

Source?

[aygart]

Source?

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ETA I realized I may be confusing the difference between chai but I think it is specific that it needs tuach only. Need to look back again.

[imayid2]

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ETA I realized I may be confusing the difference between chai but I think it is specific that it needs tuach only. Need to look back again.

AFAIK garuf and Katum works. (Though technically if garuf it can’t really be “tzli”.)

[Spoon]

AFAIK garuf and Katum works. (Though technically if garuf it can’t really be “tzli”.)

Garuf/katum works just chai doesn't work for tzli.


Why wouldn't it be considered tzli?

[imayid2]

Why wouldn't it be considered tzli?

The whole ממהר להתבשל  or לא חש לחתות etc doesn’t make sense if there aren’t coals involved

[aygart]

The whole ממהר להתבשל  or לא חש לחתות etc doesn’t make sense if there aren’t coals involved

first of all, garuf can still have coals involved according to many. But either way, Why not? Korban pesach needs a drasha od tzli eish tzli eish twice that it needs to be real fire. Tzliyas kaved is a machlokes haposkim, but again only if you need eish shoeves.

[imayid2]

first of all, garuf can still have coals involved according to many. But either way, Why not? Korban pesach needs a drasha od tzli eish tzli eish twice that it needs to be real fire. Tzliyas kaved is a machlokes haposkim, but again only if you need eish shoeves.

Not sure what you are bringing out from those places regarding the specific svaros playing out pertaining to חשש חיתוי to which roasting on  the open fire is the crux of the whole Halacha.

(Anyway, pretty irrelevant point)

[jj1000]

Ok, I got the all clear from the Rav. Must put it on right before shabbos.

Now the question is...

What temperature do I put the smoker on for a rib eye roast?

Is 160 the lowest safe temperature to use? If so I think that'd be best. Or can I use 140?

It'll be on for around 15 hours.