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Best first time smoked ribs/brisket recipe: https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/spice-rubs-and-pastes/big-bad-beef-rub-recipe

Chickens taste better when cooked whole. Pickles taste better cut. Sandwiches taste better cut and bitten from inside. Meat tastes better sliced against grain.


Definitely a smoker is a personal choice, and what is better depends on what you are looking for.  I say it's a balance of goals, between: (i) making good food, (ii) making authentic BBQ, (iii) having fun with the maaseh of smoking, and (iv) convenience.  Items (iii) and (iv) don't only conflict, they directly oppose each other.

I opted for items (i) and (iv) so went PBC.  I would say WSM is also mostly a (i) and (iv) choice, but it brings in extra elements of (ii) and (iii), at a slight cost to (iv).  Maybe WSM also better at (i)--I have no idea either way.

Further to the above:

If all you want is good food, get a sous vide.

If all you want is authentic BBQ, get a huge offset smoker that you feed with split logs.

If all you want is having fun with the maaseh of smoking, again, get a huge offset smoker.

If all you want is convenience, use your oven.


Henche's PBC review
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43018.msg1439199#msg1439199
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2014, 10:52:03 PM »
Ive been smoking meats for the past 2 years and Im still working on the technique.
most people believe its easy, you put it on and come back 6 hours later and its done. NOT TRUE!!!
It takes a L O N G   T I M E!!!...Not only that but its hard to get the right flavow...
But its well worth it.
I just did a chuck shoulder roast and smoked it very well. The problem i had was keeping the heat even on the meat. I put the meat on the side of my smoker and the corner closest to the flame was overcooked.
My biggest issue is cooking it SLOWER. I dont get enough "smokey" flavor in the meat. It always cooks very evenly (I usually pull it out when the center of the meat is 140) but the flavor isnt smokey enough.
Since Im working with a smoker that I built from scratch (55 gallon drum), Ive been trying to fix the seal of the air and the flow from the vents.
If anyone has any ideas for me to make the meat smokier and cook slower, Id greatly appreciate it.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2014, 11:30:45 PM »
What's your heat source?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2014, 11:32:47 PM »
I use coals. I lay a small bed down in a square (raised on a grate to keep the ash out), then i heat up a big handful of coals in a starter. I then pour the white coals in the corner of the square so that the heat'll spread slowly. but it still goes too quickly.
Ive been trying to think of a way to create an external fire box but I cant figure out what materials I could buy (cheap) to make it...

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2014, 12:11:13 AM »
Back to the matter at hand,  anyone else smoke meat?
I do.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2014, 12:33:36 AM »
I use coals. I lay a small bed down in a square (raised on a grate to keep the ash out), then i heat up a big handful of coals in a starter. I then pour the white coals in the corner of the square so that the heat'll spread slowly. but it still goes too quickly.
Ive been trying to think of a way to create an external fire box but I cant figure out what materials I could buy (cheap) to make it...
That's above my pay grade. I'm still using a kettle grill
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2014, 01:05:06 AM »
When I figure it out, I'll be sure to post details.
To be honest, I'm embarrassed  how long it took me to discover smoking. I'm from Texas and that's all they do here.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2014, 09:54:57 AM »
Are you considering other heat sources like a plate or pellets?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2014, 09:56:41 AM »
Are you considering other heat sources like a plate or pellets?

coal is the cheapest option.
I dont really think thats my issue. I think its really the airflow. I have no clue on whats the propper way to regulate airflow

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2014, 11:08:51 AM »
Interesting cold smoking method at 4:50



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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2014, 11:10:17 AM »
Interesting cold smoking method at 4:50



thanks, Ill take a look later today

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2014, 04:25:33 PM »

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2014, 08:39:22 PM »
I use a Weber One Touch Gold with a Smokenator for smoking. It is a great combo and holds temp at 225 for hours without any intervention.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2014, 09:43:15 PM »
I use a Weber One Touch Gold with a Smokenator for smoking. It is a great combo and holds temp at 225 for hours without any intervention.

Oh wow. I have to look into that. Thanks!
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2014, 12:22:26 PM »


I want to try this method out.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2014, 08:15:31 AM »
I haven't tried that exact method but I find that the temperature becomes much harder to control when just using bare charcoal.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2014, 01:31:09 PM »
I haven't tried that exact method but I find that the temperature becomes much harder to control when just using bare charcoal.
Bare charcoal as opposed to?
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2014, 11:41:29 AM »
Bare charcoal as opposed to?
Using a piece of metal between the charcoal and food for radiant heat.

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2014, 05:46:01 PM »
I smoked a 5-pound brisket yesterday and it was phenomenal!

I trimmed a lot of the fat, leaving only a thin layer. I applied the Big Bad Beef Rub. Because the meat was kashured with salt, I didnít add any to the rub. I applied it right before putting the meat on the grill. The main reason to season beforehand is to allow the salt to penetrate the meat (almost all other spices used are too big to penetrate) so I didnít think it would be necessary to marinate overnight.
I set the grill up in the ďsnake methodĒ and added hickory chips to the first half of it. I then placed a large water pan in the bare area and placed the meat on top of that. This configuration helped deflect some of the direct heat from the coals. I placed it fat cap down because I wanted a good bark to form. The temperature was stable at 225 for several hours without any intervention.
As soon as the meat hit 143F, I wrapped it tightly with two layers of heavy-duty foil. I poured a little beer into the foil before sealing it. This method helped me avoid the dreaded stall altogether.
It was getting late so I cheated a little and put the wrapped brisket into my gas grill set at 300F (still indirect heat though). This helped me get the temperate up to 204 within a couple of hours. As soon as I got to temp, I pulled the meat from the grill and let it rest for about 30 minutes still wrapped tightly. I unwrapped it and sliced it perpendicular to the grain and it came out butter soft. The rub I used is a little peppery so it might not be for everyone but the texture of the meat was amazing. You could eat it without a knife.

If you havenít tried smoking meat yet, I highly recommend it.
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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2014, 05:50:39 PM »

I smoked a 5-pound brisket yesterday and it was phenomenal!

If you havenít tried smoking meat yet, I highly recommend it.
you are definitely getting me to consider trying it!

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Re: Smoking Meats
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2014, 05:52:34 PM »
you are definitely getting me to consider trying it!
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Be forewarned though, it can become addicting, time consuming, and expensive...but still totally worth it.
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