Author Topic: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens  (Read 16538 times)

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2014, 08:26:57 AM »
Some would argue that running away is also dangerous. I hear both sides. I'd be scared to live there myself but I think it's commendable that others do. There is no good solution.
It's a silly thing to say anyways. People have died and gotten killed all over Israel.
I have to disagree. Living in NJ is not running away and is not dangerous.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2014, 08:51:32 AM »
Can you elaborate on that? Which point was valid:

1. The parents are responsible for their kidnapping and murder and should have said Viduy instead of a Hesped.
2. It's Assur to live in a settlement

Please, I would like to hear.
Firs yes it's an isur to live in a mukem sakuna and a place where u are only secure to go around with weapons is definitely call sakuna and if so the parents has part of the blame for sending their child in such a place

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2014, 09:09:01 AM »
Please!!! There is no excuse for such talk. Period!

To all the Satmars out there: Reb Yoel would have never spoken like that.

Someone with such foolishness, heartlessness and insensitivity should not be in any sort of position of leadership!

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2014, 09:10:58 AM »
Please!!! There is no excuse for such talk. Period!

To all the Satmars out there: Reb Yoel would have never spoken like that. Someone with such foolishness, heartlessness and insensitivity should be in any sort of position of leadership!
In case you're unaware, there is a reason why some (most??) of satmar aren't under his leadership.
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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2014, 09:25:19 AM »
So because some confused Jew would not understand or appreciate what they hold to be Toras emes he should not say it? Many Jews think we are crazy for dressing tznius also..
some? Because 99% of Jews would find this hurtful as they are mourning their lost children

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2014, 09:30:04 AM »
And what makes the settlements as a rule any less safe from the rest of Israel? It happens to be that the place that they were kidnapped from is very safe. Both the 1949 borders and  the 1967 borders are protected by the same tziyunim. There are many settlements that are safer than other parts of Israel or Brooklyn for that matter.

He is so eager to bash another Yid that he overlooked this basic fact. He also made the presumption that the Arab kid killed was killed by a Jew. This is also a baseless assumption, there isn't a shred of evidence as of yet to support that. When it comes to bashing tziyunim anything goes.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2014, 09:32:11 AM »
He also made the presumption that the Arab kid killed was killed by a Jew. This is also a baseless assumption, there isn't a shred of evidence as of yet to support that. When it comes to bashing tziyunim anything goes.
He stated clearly that he is unsure if it was an israeli or a palestinian that killed the palestinian kid.

"There is a suspicion that this murder was an act of vengeance and who knows if Jews all over the world are not in danger now from the Arabs. I hope that this youth was killed by another Arab but it is wise to be afraid."
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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2014, 09:36:25 AM »
I know ppl there sleeping at night with a gun is this normal????

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2014, 09:53:31 AM »
Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
#nuffsaid

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2014, 09:54:23 AM »

Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא

Which Gadol?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2014, 09:55:36 AM »
Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
All yiddin are tzadikim. How could he talk this way about other Jews ?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2014, 09:59:56 AM »
All yiddin are tzadikim. How could he talk this way about other Jews ?
first of all that's a very naive statement. He didn't call them reshaim he said they made a mistake because they were blinded by their virtues. If someone goes to jail is it wrong for someone to say he made a mistake?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2014, 10:00:30 AM »
Which Gadol?
Go to hell! Ask anyone who knows even a bit of Torah (yes this excludes many) they will tell you he is a gadol

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2014, 10:04:11 AM »
And what makes the settlements as a rule any less safe from the rest of Israel? It happens to be that the place that they were kidnapped from is very safe. Both the 1949 borders and  the 1967 borders are protected by the same tziyunim. There are many settlements that are safer than other parts of Israel or Brooklyn for that matter.

??? keep drinkin the koolaid. if you think yehuda and shomron are the same safe as ramat eshkol you obviously have no clue what youre talking about.

All yiddin are tzadikim. How could he talk this way about other Jews ?
heh, really? thats what you get for stopping to learn after reading the headlines

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2014, 10:13:23 AM »
Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
#nuffsaid
This is not at all bottled up hatred. It is an automatic reaction that every yid feels when he hears such loshon hora and sinas chinam spouted against another yid in such distress.

This is not the way a Talmud chochom, let alone a gadol b'yisrael would talk.