Author Topic: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens  (Read 33823 times)

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2014, 09:30:04 AM »
And what makes the settlements as a rule any less safe from the rest of Israel? It happens to be that the place that they were kidnapped from is very safe. Both the 1949 borders and  the 1967 borders are protected by the same tziyunim. There are many settlements that are safer than other parts of Israel or Brooklyn for that matter.

He is so eager to bash another Yid that he overlooked this basic fact. He also made the presumption that the Arab kid killed was killed by a Jew. This is also a baseless assumption, there isn't a shred of evidence as of yet to support that. When it comes to bashing tziyunim anything goes.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2014, 09:32:11 AM »
He also made the presumption that the Arab kid killed was killed by a Jew. This is also a baseless assumption, there isn't a shred of evidence as of yet to support that. When it comes to bashing tziyunim anything goes.
He stated clearly that he is unsure if it was an israeli or a palestinian that killed the palestinian kid.

"There is a suspicion that this murder was an act of vengeance and who knows if Jews all over the world are not in danger now from the Arabs. I hope that this youth was killed by another Arab but it is wise to be afraid."

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2014, 09:36:25 AM »
I know ppl there sleeping at night with a gun is this normal????

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2014, 09:53:31 AM »
Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
#nuffsaid

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2014, 09:54:23 AM »

Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא

Which Gadol?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2014, 09:55:36 AM »
Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
All yiddin are tzadikim. How could he talk this way about other Jews ?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2014, 09:59:56 AM »
All yiddin are tzadikim. How could he talk this way about other Jews ?
first of all that's a very naive statement. He didn't call them reshaim he said they made a mistake because they were blinded by their virtues. If someone goes to jail is it wrong for someone to say he made a mistake?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2014, 10:00:30 AM »
Which Gadol?
Go to hell! Ask anyone who knows even a bit of Torah (yes this excludes many) they will tell you he is a gadol

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2014, 10:04:11 AM »
And what makes the settlements as a rule any less safe from the rest of Israel? It happens to be that the place that they were kidnapped from is very safe. Both the 1949 borders and  the 1967 borders are protected by the same tziyunim. There are many settlements that are safer than other parts of Israel or Brooklyn for that matter.

??? keep drinkin the koolaid. if you think yehuda and shomron are the same safe as ramat eshkol you obviously have no clue what youre talking about.

All yiddin are tzadikim. How could he talk this way about other Jews ?
heh, really? thats what you get for stopping to learn after reading the headlines

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2014, 10:13:23 AM »
Such hatred bottled up against satmar suddenly bursting out. I find this conversation despicable how can you talk this way about a gadol byisrael? כל המבזה ת"ח אפילו שלא בפניו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
#nuffsaid
This is not at all bottled up hatred. It is an automatic reaction that every yid feels when he hears such loshon hora and sinas chinam spouted against another yid in such distress.

This is not the way a Talmud chochom, let alone a gadol b'yisrael would talk.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2014, 10:18:02 AM »
It's def a more dangerous area. If we leave they'll just keep closing in and Jews will have to keep leaving. 
If you can't hear both sides of why people feel it's right to live there and why people think it's not then you probably can't have a very smart conversation about this to begin with.
"Not all who wander are lost"

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2014, 10:24:20 AM »
??? keep drinkin the koolaid. if you think yehuda and shomron are the same safe as ramat eshkol you obviously have no clue what youre talking about.
heh, really? thats what you get for stopping to learn after reading the headlines
You guys are psychopathic. They were kidnapped in Gush Etzion, there are 70,000 Jews who live there.

How can anyone blame them or their parents for their death because they were in such a place?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2014, 10:44:14 AM »
It's def a more dangerous area. If we leave they'll just keep closing in and Jews will have to keep leaving. 
If you can't hear both sides of why people feel it's right to live there and why people think it's not then you probably can't have a very smart conversation about this to begin with.
yes we are in galos & we "HAVE" to keep leaving that's just what hashem wants 4 his kids! from a political standpoint u couldn't be more right, but were jews have no rights! Judaism is a constant struggle & a "oil"! the torah is no declaration of independence. ...!!

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2014, 10:50:47 AM »

Go to hell! Ask anyone who knows even a bit of Torah (yes this excludes many) they will tell you he is a gadol

What makes him a Gadol (not to be confused with a Talmud chacham).

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2014, 10:56:58 AM »
yes we are in galos & we "HAVE" to keep leaving that's just what hashem wants 4 his kids! from a political standpoint u couldn't be more right, but were jews have no rights! Judaism is a constant struggle & a "oil"! the torah is no declaration of independence. ...!!
The tipshus going on here is amazing. Suffice it to say Torah disagrees with you.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2014, 10:59:25 AM »
You guys are psychopathic. They were kidnapped in Gush Etzion, there are 70,000 Jews who live there.

How can anyone blame them or their parents for their death because they were in such a place?
actually i think most people, excluding yourself obviously, are aware that its more dangerous living in the settlements. the settlers themselves know that as well. they feel justified putting themselves and their families in that danger based on their beliefs.
if someone holds their beliefs are mistaken, then yes, it follows that the parents definitely do bear some of the responsibility for anything that happens. its pretty simple.

now, whether or not these things should be spoken out in a public setting during shivah... thats a different discussion.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2014, 11:04:19 AM »
??? keep drinkin the koolaid. if you think yehuda and shomron are the same safe as ramat eshkol you obviously have no clue what youre talking about.
heh, really? thats what you get for stopping to learn after reading the headlines

No, but they are both safer than Williamsburg in the 90's and Satmar certainly didnt run away

Other than the occasional Terrorist attack, there is virtually no crime in the "settlements"


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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2014, 11:05:31 AM »
The points are valid, the timing is not.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2014, 11:06:16 AM »
Other than the occasional Terrorist attack, there is virtually no crime in the "settlements"
Which makes it safer than virtually any american city.

I'd rather hear about the dangers of hitching a ride...
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2014, 11:10:50 AM »
Which makes it safer than virtually any american city.

I'd rather hear about the dangers of hitching a ride...

Dan, you really believe that the settlements are a safe place?  :o