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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2014, 01:22:52 PM »
Anyway, whatever he wanted to say, he could have used a little seyag lechuchme and not dance on their blood. Now wasn't the time.
This was picked up in the Israeli secular media and the family might have seen it. "Ashamnu Bagadnu".....
Please keep your Belzer issues to yourself.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2014, 01:26:55 PM »

Go to hell! Ask anyone who knows even a bit of Torah (yes this excludes many) they will tell you he is a gadol

A Gadol who goes to secular court.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2014, 01:28:07 PM »

Firs yes it's an isur to live in a mukem sakuna and a place where u are only secure to go around with weapons is definitely call sakuna and if so the parents has part of the blame for sending their child in such a place

The thefts, assaults, attacks that Satmar Chassidim are subjected to is due to the CAUSE of living in Williamsburg, a Jewish enclave in a black area.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2014, 01:31:35 PM »
Whom is he referring to in this letter?

The Litvishe Maran.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2014, 01:32:01 PM »
Whom is he referring to in this letter?
R ahron leib

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2014, 01:33:27 PM »

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2014, 01:34:30 PM »
Are you serious ?

It has to be Litvish. Ahron wouldn't tell people to support the IDF.

Nevertheless, you never know

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2014, 01:57:46 PM »
Look how much negativity his comments have caused in this thread alone.
The only time we're generally United is when bad things happen. It's sad.
"Not all who wander are lost"

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2014, 02:04:33 PM »
בהודעה שהוציא הפלג המתחרה לכלי התקשורת נאמר, צוטט הרב מנשה פילאף, רב בית המדרש בויליאמסבורג שאמר: "אנחנו המומים ונחרדים מהעזות הגדולה. בושה שהאדמו"ר מהר"א מסאטמאר סומך את דבריו על שיטת הרה"ק רבי יואל מסאטמאר זצ"ל".

"הרבי זי"ע (רבי יואל) היה רך לבב ורחום על כל, תמיד היה מצטער בצרתם של אחרים, ואפילו על יהודים מהמזרחי ידועות עובדות רבות שבעת צרתם העניק להם כל העזרה שביקשו ממנו, הוא נתן להם ממון כשהם נצטרכו לכך, איך אפשר לומר ליהודים בשעה שמתם מוטל לפניהם הם אשמים בכך? אפילו אם יהא נכונים הדברים מי נתן היתר להאדמו"ר מהר"א לדבר ככה בעת צרה".

גם הרב מאיר יהודה טננבוים, אב בית דין ומהבכירים בפלג, פרסם דברים דומים בנושא: "נכון שהרה"ק מסאטמאר האשים את הציונים וממשלת המינות שהם מביאים את רוגזם של הערבים על היהודים, ועל ידי זה מתגוררי ארה"ק נמצאים תחת סכנה אדירה מצד הערבים, אבל לומר על יהודים תמימים שומרי תורה ומצוות שעדיין נמצאים בתוך ימי האבל שהם אשמים על רציחת ילדיהם? זו עזות נוראה וחוצפה גדולה".

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2014, 02:06:50 PM »
Jumping on the bandwagon. They have no shame. They have done things in the past that are no better.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2014, 02:16:02 PM »
Most of the stuff he said are unfortunately true.

However NOW is not the time to give such a speech.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2014, 02:28:45 PM »
Most of the stuff he said are unfortunately true.

However NOW is not the time to give such a speech.
I really don't get you people.

What he said was true?!?


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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #94 on: July 03, 2014, 02:33:57 PM »
I really don't get you people.
Rule in life; You will never get to understand something if you don't want to understand it.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #95 on: July 03, 2014, 02:34:22 PM »
Nowhere, period.
You don't get into a car with anyone unless you know the person personally and trust them. At least that's how I was raised.
I wish every parent raised their children that way.
I plan on raising my children that way.
Even Lakewood? Every city in the world has pedophiles and bad people.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #96 on: July 03, 2014, 02:38:15 PM »
Rule in life; You will never get to understand something if you don't want to understand it.
Trust me. I'm trying desperately hard to understand. It really bothers me how yidden, shomrei Torah and mitzvos can think this way.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #97 on: July 03, 2014, 02:42:48 PM »
Intentional homicide rates are about three times higher in the US (4.8 per 100,000) than in Israel (1.8 per 100,000). Just because the protection is much more obvious and close to home in Israel, and violence there is felt much more throughout the Jewish community does not mean it is any more dangerous.
I lived in Alon Shvut for a year; I hitchhiked from the very spot that they were kidnapped from about a hundred times. Is it completely safe? No. But it is the culture, and I think that needs to change ASAP.
Regardless, blaming the boys' parents is uneducated, insensitive, and wrong on many levels. Now is a time for us to be united, not attacking each other.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #98 on: July 03, 2014, 02:45:32 PM »

More shocking than

When will people stop hitchhiking?

?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe's comments on the three murdered teens
« Reply #99 on: July 03, 2014, 02:49:20 PM »
More shocking than

?
Did he say that the parents should do Teshuva? He said the same thing R' Ahron Leib said after the kidnapping, that hitchiking should stop. Blaming people is very different than saying that we should learn from the tragedy.