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Lifemiles Basics

Buying miles:

Lifemiles runs frequent promotions for buying miles, usually for 1.5 cents per mile. Given that Lifemiles has one of the most reasonable Star Alliance award charts, linked here, and doesn't charge fuel surcharges for any partners, buying miles can make a lot of sense.

The promos are usually run in one of two ways.

1. A straight up buy miles promo at 1.5cpm. In all previous buy miles promos, you needed to have an account before the promo starts in order to buy miles. Buying miles though the promo is limited to 75k per year. Be sure to use a credit card that does not charge foreign transaction fees.

2. A share miles promo. You can share miles from one account to another with a 100% bonus on each transaction. The cost is again 1.5cpm. Although in the past you needed to have a Lifemiles account in order to take advantage of the promo, the current promo (7/3-13) does not require a previously open account to participate. In order to maximize the promo on accounts not previously open, open 2 accounts, buy 1k miles at 3cpm, then share back and forth between both account at 1.5cpm. You can share back and forth between 2 accounts an unlimited amount of times provided you stay under the 75k cap. Doing this will most likely trigger a fraud alert with your CC, so it may be a good idea to call them beforehand and give them a heads up.

Lifemiles will also allow you to buy up to 60% of the miles required for booking a flight. The cost starts at 3cpm but is nonlinear. There are sweet spots that allows you to buy a large quantity of miles for 1.5cpm, usually in the 25-35k range. The 1.5cpm sweetspot varies depending on the amount required for the award. Full CPM spreadsheet linked here. (HT: Some dude on FT.)

Lifemiles is known to devalue without warning so hoarding miles is not advised. Buying miles at booking allows to hedge against sudden devaluations.

There is also a Lifemiles credit card  that occasionally offers a 40k bonus. Linked here.

Redeeming Lifemiles:
You can only redeem flights which are shown online. The Lifemiles call center has a horrible reputation and is usually useless. Emailing them usually yields better results if you can wait a day or two.

Lifemiles does not allow mixed cabin redemptions. If you want to book a first class flight with connections, you will need to book all legs in first class or book separate tickets.

Lifemiles is known to have better access to Miles & More and Singapore premium cabins than the rest of Star Alliance.

Lifemiles does not charge any fuel surcharges.

Lifemiles does not allow stopovers or open jaws on awards.

The max layover time that the booking engine will usually show is 8 hours, although people have had success forcing much longer layover times.

Lifemiles does not issue any lap infant award tickets.

Lifemiles cannot book any Austrian flights operated by Tyrolean Airways.

You can access partner confirmation numbers and eticket numbers with your Lifemiles PNR at checkmytrip.com

Lifemiles will occasionally show boomerang routings, which are routings that go from A-B, via C.  ;)

There are many mispriced cities and quirks in the Lifemiles booking engine, allowing for really cheap international awards.  ;)

Canceling a Lifemiles award: (HT, FT)

Lifemiles charges $150 to change an award and $50 to cancel.

Canceling:

1. This will take 20-30 minutes and costs $50
2. You have to pay the $50 up front and will need to have your credit card handy
3. You will need a PIN number for the call center. You set up the PIN online by changing your "information and preferences". Note that this has 3 pages but you only need to change the "Manage the Basics" page and hit "Save". The progress-bar at the top never seems to reach 100% but it doesn't matter. There are two places to press "Save and continue" when you give the PIN. The top button doesn't work. You have to click on the one on the bottom of the screen
4. Call the USA reservations number preferably during business hours +1 800 284 2622
5. Key 2 for English (or 1 for Spanish), 3 for Lifemiles/Corporate, then 1 for Lifemiles
6. If you have got a noisy phone line, hang up and go back to step 4. It is possible to get a good line even from overseas.
7. With luck, someone coherent will answer. If not, don't waste your time, HUCA
8. Give them the PNR to be cancelled
9. You will be asked "do you have a PIN". say yes. You will be put on hold
10. You will be connected to an automated system to key in your PIN. Don't press # afterwards.
11. You will be asked to pay the $50 via an automated system. You'll be asked for your CC number, then you must repeat it. Don't press # afterwards. Then the expiry month, then year, then the id number. Be ready to rattle through the keys as any hesitation causes the system to think you've finished. So, typically you will need 2-3 attempts. [The operator listens in on the automated process and helps you along if you don’t key in the right numbers]
13. You will be put on hold for 5-10 minutes while the card is checked. It may fail the first time, for no reason. Go back to step 12.
14. Once the CC is confirmed the operator will ask you for the full billing address, then your name as it appears on the card, then the name of the bank which issued the card.
15. You will be put on hold for 5-10 minutes
16. The operator will confirm the cancellation, or rather confirm it will be put in the queue for manual cancellation.
17. After 24 hours or so, you should receive an E Mail receipt for the $50 (could be in Spanish)
18. Miles will be refunded within 2-3 days, as if you had paid using the maximum miles with no cash to refund all the cash and the miles to what you had before making the booking. The miles sometimes reappear immediately. [Most often, the miles are available within 24 hours.]
19. The taxes - fairly modest - will be refunded in full since you already paid the cancellation fee up front. The refund should hit the CC within a week or so. No refund for the $25 booking fee.
20. The refund will be refunded to the original card.



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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #120 on: March 29, 2019, 11:13:12 AM »
So it only took around 12 hours on the phone, but I have a flight again.

Tried the TK TLV office a couple of times last night, got stuck on hold and dropped calls until I decided to pawn it off to @Moishebatchy. I figured that yelling in Hebrew will be more effective than yelling in English. He finally got through to them, and after an hour of acrobatics, got me confirmed on the earlier TK flight that I wanted.

Note that I said "confirmed", not "ticketed". For that I needed to go back to LM, which is where all good ideas go to die.

2 hours on the phone with them, conferencing in a LM rep, and LM supervisor, a TK rep, and a TK supervisor. Got absolutely nowhere. TK claims they made the change, and LM claims they don't see any change. (I was able to see the change in the TK PNR, FWIW.)

After 2 hours we give up and instead conference LM with the TK NY office. Which didn't pick up the phone....

In the end LM was able to rebook my on a regular *A flight that had award availability. Way less than ideal, but at this point I just ant to get there , so I'm finally confirmed and ticketed on LX.

....Whose "system is currently down", so I can't select a KSML
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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #121 on: March 31, 2019, 01:53:25 PM »
Whats really happening with Lifemiles?  thought the website works pretty good.
trying to book J to TLV for April 2nd, there are a ton of available flights on all *A websites, and lifemiles shows nothing.

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« Reply #122 on: March 31, 2019, 01:59:43 PM »
thought the website works pretty good.
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« Reply #123 on: March 31, 2019, 02:07:30 PM »
Whats really happening with Lifemiles?  thought the website works pretty good.
trying to book J to TLV for April 2nd, there are a ton of available flights on all *A websites, and lifemiles shows nothing.
You are right, just took a look, hopefully temporary.
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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #124 on: March 31, 2019, 02:14:14 PM »
Whats really happening with Lifemiles?  thought the website works pretty good.
trying to book J to TLV for April 2nd, there are a ton of available flights on all *A websites, and lifemiles shows nothing.
Ever since the update, they have been showing less and less availability

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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #126 on: April 09, 2019, 03:23:52 PM »
When looking at results. I get the same amount on tax if I search for 1 or 3 pax. Is this correct ? Or it will change when I book ?

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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #127 on: April 09, 2019, 10:23:46 PM »
any reason to book with lifemiles over united or AC other than price? booking for DW
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any reason to book with lifemiles over united or AC other than price? booking for DW
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« Reply #130 on: April 09, 2019, 10:53:18 PM »
Close in fee, stop on RT [with AC] @ United does have some advantages.
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« Reply #131 on: April 09, 2019, 11:19:34 PM »
any reason to book with lifemiles over united or AC other than price? booking for DW

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any reason to book with lifemiles over united or AC other than price? booking for DW
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It's great if you have advil you need to get rid of, you'll have a use in no time.

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« Reply #135 on: April 14, 2019, 07:44:40 AM »
UA and aeroplan show 3 available seats. But LM shows only 1 seat available. Is there Anything I can do to open up in Their end more seats ?

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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #136 on: April 16, 2019, 05:34:25 PM »
Email from LM now

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Hi Chff,

As of July 15th, 2019, to align our program with other loyalty programs, we will modify the required miles and applicable charges for airline tickets within the United States on flights operated by Star Alliance member airlines.


We will now have new mileages starting from LM 6,500 one-way! Be advised that most of the regular mileage will remain the same, some will have reductions, and others increments.


Live more and travel with your miles! To access the best mileage, plan your trips in advance, and if you don’t have enough miles, remember to use our products to earn or speed up your accrual, such as: LifeMiles + Money, Club LifeMiles or Multiply Your Miles.

Learn more

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Check mileage and redemption charges on routes within US operated by air partners, as of July 15th, 2019:

Current   Changes as of July 15th, 2019
Redemption charges   US$ 25   From US$ 10 up to US$ 25
Mileage   From LM 7,500 up to LM 12,500   From LM 6,500 up to LM 13,500


Below are some examples of routes with the applied adjustments, as of July 15th, 2019:

Route (One way)   Current mileage   New mileage   Current charge   New charge
Chicago (ORD)-Washington (DCA)   LM 8,000   LM 7,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Cleveland (CLE)-Newark (EWR)   LM 7,500   LM 6,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Los Ángeles (LAX)-Las Vegas (LAS)   LM 7,500   LM 6,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Newark (EWR)-Detroit (DTW)   LM 7,500   LM 6,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Dallas (DFW)-Houston (IAH)   LM 7,500   LM 6,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Cleveland (CLE)-Nueva York (LGA)   LM 7,500   LM 6,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Newark (EWR)-Boston (BOS)   LM 7,500   LM 6,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Phoenix (PHX)-San Francisco (SFO)   LM 7,500   LM 6,500   US$ 25   US$ 10
Nueva York(LGA)-Houston (IAH)   LM 10,000   LM 10,000   US$ 25   US$ 15
Miami (MIA)- Newark (EWR)   LM 10,000   LM 10,000   US$ 25   US$ 15
Orlando (MCO) – Newark (EWR)   LM 10,000   LM 10,000   US$ 25   US$ 15
Fort Lauderdale (FLL) – Washington (IAD)   LM 10,000   LM 10,000   US$ 25   US$ 15
San Francisco (SFO)-Chicago (ORD)   LM 12,500   LM 12,500   US$ 25   US$ 15
Washington (DCA)-Houston(IAH)   LM 10,000   LM 12,500   US$ 25   US$ 15
Los Ángeles (LAX)-Newark (EWR)   LM 12,500   LM 13,500   US$ 25   US$ 25
Washington (IAD)-San Francisco (SFO)   LM 12,500   LM 13,500   US$ 25   US$ 25
Houston (IAH)-Newark (EWR)   LM 10,000   LM 12,500   US$ 25   US$ 15
San Francisco (FCO) – Washington (IAD)   LM 10,500   LM 13,500   US$ 25   US$ 25

Terms and conditions
The table contains the required miles and fees to redeem air tickets within the United States valid from July 15th, 2019. This table shows the mileage required for one-way tickets, in the lowest class in each cabin and only for the “Economy on Sale” Product.

The referenced charts shows only the mileages that will be modified. To know the amount of miles required for the redemption of ticket in routes not included, you must make the quotation through the redemption system in LifeMiles.com.

To know the exact amount of required miles for each origin and destination for other redemption products/classes, you need to consult the miles amount through the redemption system at LifeMiles.com.

The amounts listed by the redemption system shall prevail over those shown on the table above.

The mileage showed does not apply to flights that include stop-overs.

LifeMiles reserves the right to modify the redemption mileages at any time.

LifeMiles is a registered trademark of LifeMiles LTD.

LifeMiles terms and conditions apply, available at LifeMiles.com

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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #137 on: April 16, 2019, 05:38:51 PM »
Definitely on top of their game.
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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #138 on: April 16, 2019, 05:40:52 PM »
The first paragraph scared me but on net it's actually pretty good.

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Re: Lifemiles Master Thread
« Reply #139 on: April 16, 2019, 05:53:43 PM »
So no international changes? Any reduced $25 booking fee for international?