Business and First Class Products Master Thread

[ilherman]

They have F, but like other airlines sometimes do, they don't sell it on that route.

Sometimes it's given to J pax FCFS, or full-fare pax, or elite members.

What is the logic behind this?

[PlatinumGuy]

No matter how solid one's closing skills, if you're on a connecting flight from a partner, and you don't arrive at the airport until 90 mins before, those seats are long gone.

Note true at all, they'll very often leave at least a few of them empty, and with good enough skills you can bounce someone too.

[PlatinumGuy]

What is the logic behind this?

Probably 2 main reasons, government restrictions on F cabins (Pakistan) and potential for equipment downgrade (LX TLV).

[AJK]

Leave a few them empty (on a plane with only four seats in F to begin with) within an hour of departure? When they're normally on FCFS basis? Unlikely.

[ilherman]

Probably 2 main reasons, government restrictions on F cabins (Pakistan) and potential for equipment downgrade (LX TLV).

Korea and Thailand, both allow F. Probably your second reason......

[ilherman]

Leave a few them empty (on a plane with only four seats in F to begin with) within an hour of departure? When they're normally on FCFS basis? Unlikely.

i arrive in ICN in the morning, do you think I can go to the Korean desk at the airport and explain them that I paid for First Class and ask nicely if they can sit me in First?

It's the old F and almost the same as business class, but still...... I'm sick

Also I wanna check out the KE FCL.

[AJK]

i arrive in ICN in the morning, do you think I can go to the Korean desk at the airport and explain them that I paid for First Class and ask nicely if they can sit me in First?

It's the old F and almost the same as business class, but still...... I'm sick

Also I wanna check out the KE FCL.

If you're flying KE ex USA, don't wait till you arrive in ICN.

Ask the KE agent in NYC to do it.

Depending on what their protocol is for allocating those seats, he or she may be able to do it there.

[ilherman]

If you're flying KE ex USA, don't wait till you arrive in ICN.

Ask the KE agent in NYC to do it.

Depending on what their protocol is for allocating those seats, he or she may be able to do it there.

Thanks. Will try.

If I don't get to sit in F can I still use the FCL because I arrived in F?

[MEIR613]

Thanks. Will try.

If I don't get to sit in F can I still use the FCL because I arrived in F?

Yes,

It depends if they are operating F. In some cases (LX, ex TLV) they give out the F seats even though there is no F service and they don't sell F in advance.

OZ F (ICN-HKG) closes the whole F cabin and you could be the best talker/closer and you'll still get nada.

[bubble347]

Has anyone flown CX A340-300 with the herringbone business class configuration? What are the best seats when flying with a companion?

BUMP

[Dan]

Longest route that CX still flies 747 with F?
Is it HND-HKG?

[bubble347]

Longest route that CX still flies 747 with F?
Is it HND-HKG?

You just destroyed my bump! 

[PlatinumGuy]

Leave a few them empty (on a plane with only four seats in F to begin with) within an hour of departure? When they're normally on FCFS basis? Unlikely.

They're not normally FCFS. If J isn't full they won't necessarily seat anyone there.

[AJK]

Longest route that CX still flies 747 with F?
Is it HND-HKG?

Correct.

They're not normally FCFS. If J isn't full they won't necessarily seat anyone there.

Depends on the airline.

[@Yehuda]

What airline is this?

[AJK]

SQ

[bubble347]

SQ

What aircraft?

[Dan]

Correct.

Done it yet?
Those front 2 seats belong on any bucket list worth its salt.

[@Yehuda]

SQ

Wow, that's really nice.

[AJK]

What aircraft?

Retired 747.

Done it yet?
Those front 2 seats belong on any bucket list worth its salt.

You stay the hell away from me. And keep your opinions to yourself. You've already caused enough of a ruckus.

Wow, that's really nice.

Seats on the refurbed 773 are much nicer.