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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1830 on: December 03, 2015, 01:37:45 AM »
anyone ever flew IB J A330? what similar J product would you compare it to?
What route has a330? I flew two of their A345/6

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1831 on: December 03, 2015, 03:17:38 AM »
What route has a330? I flew two of their A345/6
They use it occasionally TLV-MAD

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1832 on: December 03, 2015, 05:38:35 AM »
They use it occasionally TLV-MAD
Right, forgot. They fly it 3 times a week

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1833 on: December 03, 2015, 08:30:36 AM »
What route has a330? I flew two of their A345/6

jfk-mad for example... Per flightaware at least...

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1834 on: December 03, 2015, 09:47:08 AM »
jfk-mad for example... Per flightaware at least...
I have flown that route twice and am flying it again April only a340.

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1835 on: December 03, 2015, 10:13:29 AM »
I have flown that route twice and am flying it again April only a340.

this is recently... if anyone flew the a330 please advise

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1836 on: December 04, 2015, 08:25:35 AM »
BA NYC-LHR, which has the better business class, the 774 OR 777 ?
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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1837 on: December 06, 2015, 04:18:26 AM »
I was searching availability for cx from yyz-hkg on ba.com, and while there is availability in j on many dates, they claim that f isn't flown on those flights. Is that really true?

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1838 on: December 06, 2015, 04:32:52 AM »
I was searching availability for cx from yyz-hkg on ba.com, and while there is availability in j on many dates, they claim that f isn't flown on those flights. Is that really true?

Yes - they only fly a 3 cabin 77w on that route.

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1839 on: December 06, 2015, 11:05:32 AM »
Was an amazing route for F space back in the day.
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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1840 on: December 06, 2015, 11:46:59 PM »
Which of the following three options is the best booking with AA:



Option 1 CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX.

CPT-DOH on QR 787 in J (available now) +
DOH-AUH  is 45k/person

AUH-LAX on EY 77W is 90k in F or 67.5k J (right now only J is available)

This would price as 2 awards for a total of 112.5k/person in J the whole way and 135k J/F.

Option 2 CPT-DOH-JFK/PHL/BOS-LAX

CPT-DOH on QR 787 in J (available now) +
    DOH-JFK on QR A350 in J (not available now)+
    JFK-LAX on AA A321 in J (also not available now, so may require routing with a stop)
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    DOH-PHL or BOS on QR A250 in J (not available now)+
    PHL or BOS-LAX on AA J (recliner)

This would price as one award of 75k/person

Option 3 CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX

CPT-DOH on QR 787 in J (available now) +
DOH-AUH  is 45k/person

AUH-JFK on EY A380 in J or F (only J available now) +
JFK-LAX on AA A321 in J or F (neither available now)

This would price as 2 awards for a total of 112.5k/person in J the whole way and 135k J/F.


Pros/Cons I've thought of so far:

Option 1: It's one less stop from AUH, flying straight to LAX, but the only seats available now are J on the 77W which isn't that nice.

Option 2: It's one award, so fewest miles used, and J on A350 is nicer than QR 77W DOH-LAX

Option 3: It's on the EY A380, which as better J seats than the 77W, but is an extra stop and still prices as 2 awards.

If I book it as 2 awards, which route is the best to reserve in J? The EY J on the A380 or on 77W? Do I wait to book it as one award, hoping QR will open up seats to JFK/PHL/BOS? What's your opinion and why?


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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1841 on: December 07, 2015, 12:13:05 AM »
Goodness that a loaded question.

Only a few comments:

First, it's gonna be tough to beat the value of 75K for CPT to LAX in brand new QR J. Second, the likelihood of J opening up on JFK-LAX is far from certain. Third, if you take option 1 or 3 you'd get access to the new Al Safwa First Class QR lounge IIRC. Fourth, if you're considering option 3, you may as well consider: CPT-DOH-AUH-LHR-LAX to knock out new QR J, Al Safwa, EY Apts, and non-stop to LAX.

At this time in my life, even though 75k is a relative steal, it's all about F for me. If you haven't flown EY F at all, I think #1 is your best bet.

My personal pick would be #3 to knock off Al Safwa + EY Apts + F is more likely to open on JFK-LAX than J.
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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1842 on: December 07, 2015, 12:29:32 AM »
Goodness that a loaded question.

Only a few comments:

First, it's gonna be tough to beat the value of 75K for CPT to LAX in brand new QR J. Second, the likelihood of J opening up on JFK-LAX is far from certain. Third, if you take option 1 or 3 you'd get access to the new Al Safwa First Class QR lounge IIRC. Fourth, if you're considering option 3, you may as well consider: CPT-DOH-AUH-LHR-LAX to knock out new QR J, Al Safwa, EY Apts, and non-stop to LAX.

At this time in my life, even though 75k is a relative steal, it's all about F for me. If you haven't flown EY F at all, I think #1 is your best bet.

My personal pick would be #3 to knock off Al Safwa + EY Apts + F is more likely to open on JFK-LAX than J.
Wow, thanks. I know, it's tough. 1 and 3 do get Al Safwa access, which is where I'd spend the night since they have those great private rooms. I haven't been in EY F at all. I did think of AUH-LHR-LAX, but wouldn't that be a lot of YQ on either BA or AA? Also isn't it more likely that AA F will open on JFK-LAX as opposed to LHR-LAX? As of now the only things available on LHR-LAX are flights that stop in PHX (F) or IAD (J), which would make it CPT-DOH-AUH-LHR-PHX-LAX which is a bit long.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it'll be with a baby, so the cost of the lap child will also factor into it. As it is the lap child will cost us about $1400 LAX-DXB-JNB in F.

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1843 on: December 07, 2015, 12:31:27 AM »
I did think of AUH-LHR-LAX, but wouldn't that be a lot of YQ on either BA or AA?

No YQ on AA

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Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
« Reply #1844 on: December 07, 2015, 12:34:24 AM »
No YQ on AA
I know, but BA is all that's available. At the same time, AA allows free routing changes, no? If I decide to go with 1 or 3, can't I just book J on what's available now and then change it later?