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Why does the world consider Israel the aggressors and Palestinians the victims?

Pure ignorance. People simply don't know the true history and the facts.
4 (6.5%)
Propaganda. An agenda-driven media has pumped out anti-Israel rhetoric for decades, and people have bought into it.
8 (12.9%)
Antisemitism. Deep down, Israel-hate comes from Jew-hate, both from gentiles and self-hating Jews. They don't care what the facts are, they just hate Jews.
21 (33.9%)
Because Israel IS the aggressor. (explain)
2 (3.2%)
Israel did this to themselves. Israel brought this upon themselves by constantly apologizing for defending themselves. When you apologize to the world, it is an admission of guilt.
3 (4.8%)
All of the above except #4.
15 (24.2%)
The vast majority of the free world is NOT against Israel.
9 (14.5%)

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Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« on: July 28, 2014, 08:09:44 PM »
I have been trying to understand the true underlying reason why the vast majority of world opinion is against Israel.

What do you think?

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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 08:13:33 PM »
are we talking about the current fighting?
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 08:14:12 PM »
7. golus
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 08:14:50 PM »
are we talking about the current fighting?

Nope, any time Israel engages militarily with Gaza or the West Bank. (Or going back even further, Sinai).

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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 08:17:18 PM »
7. golus

In that case your vote is Antisemitism.

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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 08:17:32 PM »
how about an option:
the vast majority of the free world is not against Israel?
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 08:18:34 PM »
how about an option:
the vast majority of the free world is not against Israel?
Are you getting your news from FOX? :P
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 08:19:34 PM »
how about an option:
the vast majority of the free world is not against Israel?

Just added that to see how many votes it gets..

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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 08:19:50 PM »
Are you getting your news from FOX? :P
it was from anti-FOX.  ;)
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 08:19:57 PM »
how about an option:
the vast majority of the free world is not against Israel?
Continue living with blinders over your eyes.. People had the same attitude before the holocaust

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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 08:20:16 PM »
Just added that to see how many votes it gets..
tied for first!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 08:21:24 PM »
Continue living with blinders over your eyes.. People had the same attitude before the holocaust
may I ask where you live.
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 08:22:52 PM »
may I ask where you live.
The way I see it, the majority in the US is with Israel on this, in the EU they're with Gaza.
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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 08:23:09 PM »
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Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai said, and he was an expert on the subject from his dealings with the Romans, “Halachah hi beyadua she’Esav soneh l’Yaakov.” [“It is a law that Esav hates Yaakov.”] Rabbi Menachem Ziemba, who was murdered in the Warsaw Ghetto on Chol Hamoed Pesach, asked the following: Why does Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai say the same thing twice—“halachah” and “beyadua”? Just say beyadua; why is it necessary to say halachah? Because, he answers, one is required to uphold halachah even if one does not understand the reason behind it. What Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai is telling us is that the knowledge that Esav hates Yaakov is in the realm of halachah. It is an axiom that we have to acknowledge, even if we do not understand it.

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Re: Why the world sides with the Palestinians. (Poll)
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 08:30:57 PM »


I'm not sure that your quoted Halacha can be used as a blanket statement. There are indeed cases in Halacha where this comes into play, but I do not believe this to be one of them.

Also, who exactly descends from Eisav? This is very unclear in this day and age.