Bobov -- Din Torah Psak

[elit]

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From what I've heard it was a zabla so of course 2 are "close" to one side.

The whole thing is irrelevant. If both sides agreed to go to the beis din which i assume they did or there would be nothing to talk about

[yitzf]

The whole thing is irrelevant. If both sides agreed to go to the beis din which i assume they did or there would be nothing to talk about

I don't think I'm arguing with you. All I'm saying is that the fact that 2 are allegedly close doesn't prove that there was corruption nor does it negate the psak, because that is the nature of a zabla, that each side picks two.

[elit]

I don't think I'm arguing with you. All I'm saying is that the fact that 2 are allegedly close doesn't prove that there was corruption nor does it negate the psak, because that is the nature of a zabla, that each side picks two.

Right i wasn't arguing either i was just saying even if what you said was not true...

[avremie]

This din Torah is based on which halacha? Can someone please direct me to a tshuva or siman in s"a

[nafnaf12]

They originally went to court but the judge sent them to Beis din
Since he told them that the alter Rebbe helped him and when he(judge) asked him (Rebbe) what to do he said when to Jews come to u with a case tell them to go to a Jewish court first

[Drago]

They originally went to court

whoa, a non-Jewish court?? It's allowed for large financial arguments?

[nafnaf12]

That's how the story was told! Back when the whole thing started it was all over

[Super Speed]

This din Torah is based on which halacha? Can someone please direct me to a tshuva or siman in s"a

If it was outright in S"A then it wouldn't have taken 9 years for the psak.

[chaimmayer]

They originally went to court but the judge sent them to Beis din
Since he told them that the alter Rebbe helped him and when he(judge) asked him (Rebbe) what to do he said when to Jews come to u with a case tell them to go to a Jewish court first

the way I heard it at the time was that they went to court just to sign an arbitration agreement but I don't know...

[avremie]

If it was outright in S"A then it wouldn't have taken 9 years for the psak.

They have no choice. The halacha is clear on this.

which one?

[nafnaf12]

the way I heard it at the time was that they went to court just to sign an arbitration agreement but I don't know...

I heard it second hand only this week soi wont be surprised if u r  right

[Emkay]

which one?

The one that says that the psak of beis din is the halacha

[avremie]

The one that says that the psak of beis din is the halacha

"They" had no choice was referring to the rabbonim

[Emkay]

"They" had no choice was referring to the rabbonim

I though it was referring to the chassidim

[Drago]

Seems like they're taking it to an Israeli court.
I guess if the judges are Jewish, maybe they think it's a beis din?
https://twitter.com/BobovHocker/status/503930716783386624/photo/1

[ad120]

http://t.co/bYuA61cw4s
DO Anyone?

[Drago]

Out of curiosity, are there any practical hashkafa differences btw the 2 of them?

[ad120]

Seems like they're taking it to an Israeli court.
I guess if the judges are Jewish, maybe they think it's a beis din?
https://twitter.com/BobovHocker/status/503930716783386624/photo/1

עכטער ציונים.
I definitely understand that they are trying to salvage and recover any possible assets. However considering the case has been ruled by בית דין, there is nothing to be done. Any strings they try to pull will be viewed as an effort to undermine ב"ד authority. Doing so will further damage 45's image and legitimacy. It is nothing short of repulsive and classless. באבוב used to be a a very prestigious and high class. Over the years the image as been tarnished. Observing the moves 45 is trying to pull, it's seems clear where the stench originated from.
Having said that,  I am not a חסיד of באבוב and I understand that emotions are running extremely high in both sides. I do not do not envy anyone that is closely related to the decision making process from either side. My advice to those making the calls,  as the "Most Interesting Man in the World" would put it, "Stay classy my friends.".

[Freddie]

Out of curiosity, are there any practical hashkafa differences btw the 2 of them?

That would be interesting to know. I wish I had thought of that question. Somehow I just assumed not.

[ad120]

That would be interesting to know. I wish I had thought of that question. Somehow I just assumed not.

what should the difference be. All of their entire הנהגה of life is from the same school of thought. There is a lot of pride that comes with באבוב. Any deviation of  the original השקפה would be be precived as unacceptable.