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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #160 on: September 01, 2021, 04:28:16 PM »
Regarding the original topic: My roomate in yeshiva years ago was very interested in becoming a pilot (everyone else was going for accounting and law etc., but this was his passion).
He did a lot of research and as it stood back then only senior pilots were able to choose not to fly weekends. The more senior you are the more you get to choose better flying days and weekends are the least desirable days. So as junior pilot it seems close to impossible to become a pilot. Of course there is elal and arkia, but who would go into a career knowing that 99% or airlines are closed off to them..

The few people who he was able to seek out that were frum commercial pilots, were Baal Teshuvas who got into the field prior to being frum.

Is this true as well for cargo and general aviation pilots as well?
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #161 on: September 01, 2021, 04:30:53 PM »
Is this true as well for cargo and general aviation pilots as well?
I would guess so, it doesn't seem much different.

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #162 on: September 02, 2021, 10:32:17 PM »
Regarding the original topic: My roomate in yeshiva years ago was very interested in becoming a pilot (everyone else was going for accounting and law etc., but this was his passion).
He did a lot of research and as it stood back then only senior pilots were able to choose not to fly weekends. The more senior you are the more you get to choose better flying days and weekends are the least desirable days. So as junior pilot it seems close to impossible to become a pilot. Of course there is elal and arkia, but who would go into a career knowing that 99% or airlines are closed off to them..

He was able to seek out a handful of frum commercial pilots, but turned out they were all Baal Teshuvas who got into the field prior to being frum.
I know someone who was a commercial pilot for years. FFB. He flew regional, and was able to arrange schedules and swap days to keep shabbos. but the flip side was that he wasn't home much during the week.
at some point he quit and does GA / flight instruction.

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #163 on: September 03, 2021, 10:17:13 AM »
Is this true as well for cargo and general aviation pilots as well?

Cargo can be even worse, Cargo  such as Kalita, cargolux, DHL you can be  assigned for 2 or 3  week trips, with Fedex might be a different story

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #164 on: October 11, 2021, 02:19:07 PM »
I know a guy in Monsey whos a frum commercial pilot (FFB)and  flies for private jet owner and has to pay for stand-in pilot when it clashes with shabbos - true modern day mesirus nefesh for shabbos!
sad p.s. there are a number of frum private jet owners - should be a no brainer :-\
Is this true as well for cargo and general aviation pilots as well?

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #165 on: March 09, 2023, 01:31:37 PM »
I was today yrs old when I first saw of a chasidish commercial pilot
https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1633880698443669505?cxt=HHwWgoDRwdX12qwtAAAA

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #166 on: March 09, 2023, 01:51:10 PM »
I was today yrs old when I first saw of a chasidish commercial pilot
https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1633880698443669505?cxt=HHwWgoDRwdX12qwtAAAA
Where do you see he's a commercial pilot?
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #167 on: March 09, 2023, 02:14:57 PM »
Where do you see he's a commercial pilot?
most people who are non-commercial pilots are not type rated for those jets

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #168 on: March 09, 2023, 02:15:14 PM »
What airline does he fly for??
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #169 on: March 09, 2023, 02:35:24 PM »
assumed LY, would the Pilot union allow an outsider pilot to fly?
https://twitter.com/Lazar_Berman/status/1633802482601062400
What airline does he fly for??

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #170 on: March 09, 2023, 03:16:31 PM »
Where do you see he's a commercial pilot?

He isn't. That picture looks like a flight simulator.

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #171 on: March 09, 2023, 03:39:48 PM »
He isn't. That picture looks like a flight simulator.
Yes, something seems off I didn't read this on any other news source, and at face value, I don't think they would allow any random pilot volunteer to fly the Israeli president...

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #172 on: March 09, 2023, 03:44:00 PM »
in another day of accurate reporting it didn't say he flew them it says he volunteered to.

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #173 on: March 09, 2023, 03:50:35 PM »
in another day of accurate reporting it didn't say he flew them it says he volunteered to.
Truth but it definitely seemed to imply that he flew them, and if he didn't why is it news? :)
I volunteer to be the first person to fly to Mars  :D

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #174 on: March 09, 2023, 04:05:30 PM »
welcome to jewish news reporting

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #175 on: March 10, 2023, 12:26:00 AM »
Truth but it definitely seemed to imply that he flew them, and if he didn't why is it news? :)
I volunteer to be the first person to fly to Mars  :D
Because the PM usually flies on a 777, and he is licensed to fly a 777 and he volunteered. BTW Haaretz reported it 3 days ago.

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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #176 on: March 10, 2023, 09:25:40 AM »
Because the PM usually flies on a 777, and he is licensed to fly a 777 and he volunteered. BTW Haaretz reported it 3 days ago.
Who does he fly the 777 for?
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Re: Frum Orthodox Pilots
« Reply #177 on: July 23, 2023, 08:11:56 PM »
i know this is an old thread but we have a whatsapp group for jewish pilots, if any of the pilots here want to join just send me a PM or email