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Kivrei Tzadikim France
« on: August 31, 2014, 03:13:15 AM »
Looking for a list of kivrei Tzadikim in France,  anyone?

Does anyone know whose buried in Metz?

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2014, 11:23:03 AM »
Anyone?

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2014, 11:39:12 AM »
http://old.chabadinfo.com/index.php/des/newvideo/player51/jq/js/jwplayer/favicon.ico?url=article_en&id=24499
Saw that article too, but it's not what OP is looking for.
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Rabbi Levi Kahn, Rov of Chabad community in Paris lead 50 members of his community to a trip visiting Kivrei Tzadikim in the Russia and Ukraine. From Mezhibuz to Annipoli, traveling thru Kiev, then to Haditch, Niezhin, Polnoy and Berdichev, and even Babi Yar.
Article is about a group from France going to Russia & Ukraine. Not about a group going to France.
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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 11:48:10 AM »

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 07:22:32 PM »
According to Wikipedia Rashi is buried in Troyes, the source seems to be the Seder hadores, but I can't find the quote , can someone help me out? Thanks in advance

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 04:45:38 AM »
According to Wikipedia Rashi is buried in Troyes, the source seems to be the Seder hadores, but I can't find the quote , can someone help me out? Thanks in advance
do you intend on visiting?

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2014, 07:45:51 AM »

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2014, 08:04:41 AM »
from what i understand, its under a parking lot. maybe theres a plaque nearby

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2014, 08:06:10 AM »
Yes,  I read that, I need a reliable source before I make the effort.

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2014, 08:06:34 AM »
Yes,  I read that, I need a reliable source before I make the effort.

from what i understand, its under a parking lot. maybe theres a plaque nearby

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2014, 08:12:16 AM »
from what i understand, its under a parking lot. maybe theres a plaque nearby
Some sources say that No one knows where he's burried, I also found a source saying that rashi was buried in Prague (in seder hadoros from talmudei Mahram Padua, who claim they saw the kaver) but can't find the Seder hadores that Rabbi Gabbai claims as the source that Rashi is buried in troyes.

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2014, 10:42:56 AM »
Not sure why nobody has come up with "Kever of the Unknown Rishon" yet.

Could be a big moneymaker

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2014, 04:46:46 PM »
Where is Rashi buried? Anyone?

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2014, 05:53:29 PM »
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+is+rashi+buried
The only problem is that the Seder hadoros under "Rashi" writes that he was buried in Prague.

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2014, 07:23:05 PM »
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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2014, 10:48:13 PM »
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I think I can help. I went to Kivrei Tzadikim in Metz, Ramerupt and Troyes about 5 years ago. At the time I went, I did some research and at that time no one knew where exactly Rashi is buried. There is a place in Troyes where they think he may be buried and someone (the town??) has put up a memorial there but there is no confirmation that he is buried there.

About a 20 minute drive from Troyes is Ramerupt, where there is evidence/a tradition that the Baal'i Tosfos lived and were buried there. There is a small house with a courtyard where supposedly the Rashbam, Ri, Tosofoes Ri HaZakan, and the Rivah are buried. There are maztoivis with their names on it, and from the research I did before I went it seemed to be accurate that they are buried there.

Metz is IIRC about a 2 hours drive from Ramerupt/Troyes and I believe the Shagas Aryeh and other tzadikim are buried there. Not 100% sure of that though.

I'm going to try to post some pics of Rashi's memorial in Troyes and of Ramerupt. Let me know if you have any questions.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2014, 10:57:09 PM by ZCN »

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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2014, 10:51:52 PM »
I think the point is that the exact location is not known.
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Re: Kivrei Tzadikim France
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2014, 10:53:58 PM »
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