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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2014, 12:06:12 PM »
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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2014, 05:15:19 PM »
SINGAPORE           ($1 US=1.27 SGD)[/b]
After hanging around in the lounge in BKK for about 2 ½ hours we boarded our flight from BKK to SIN at 430 PM. The flight was a little over 2 hours long getting us in at 730 PM (SIN is 1 hour ahead of Thailand). The flight was fantastic-the hard product was amazing-huge and comfortable fully lie flat seats, and great service!! 

Business class Thai airways BKK-SIN


Before landing in SIN we made sure to go through our bags and throw out all of our chewing gum and anything else on the long list of things that you cannot bring into SIN. Before travelling here make sure you look into this-for example, if you are bringing any prescription medications it needs to bring in its orig. pkg. with the person’s name on it matching the name on the ticket and the orig. prescription from the doctor as well ::)!!!!! Anyway, we got through passport control relatively quickly and then stopped in the arrivals area to buy a sim card. You can buy sim cards in Singapore at any money changer, so we picked up a $30 SIN ($23 US) with 3G included which was more than enough for the 2+ days we were there. I also was randomly selected to get a free prize for buying the sim card and got an electric back massager (which promptly broke after our 2 yr old got ahold of it 5 minutes later…..)!

With our free gift in hand we marched over to the taxi line. Now the taxi line was rather lengthy (prob. Like a 20 min. wait), but luckily my wife noticed a small sign saying if you have small children you can skip the line, so we decided to take advantage and 2 minutes later we had our stuff loaded into a taxi and were on the way to the Grand Hyatt Singapore (one advantage of haiong kids with you on the trip ;)). Singapore taxis are cheap and the drivers are very friendly, but one thing they all seem to have in common-they like to talk, and talk, and talk………..sometimes they will be your personal tour guide pointing out various sites and sometimes they will tell you about the local laws and culture-but sometimes they will share with you their personal life or things you really have no interest in hearing about-all in all they are really nice though.

 The taxi ride to the hotel was about 25 min and we were at the hotel. We booked the Grand Hyatt Singapore for three nights-2 using 2 free nights (from opening the cc) and one night using points. Now I know that that is not a great value for those nights but they were expiring a week later and that was the best value for me at the time. The hotel is a category 5 and itself is really old but has been refurbished recently. Before our trip I got the Diamond trial approved so we were upgraded to a junior suite which is very large with two separate rooms divided by a sliding door. I emailed the hotel many times before getting there about getting me kosher breakfast but they said it could not be arranged and they would not give me anything in its place (they said that was the hotel policy?!?). The suite was very spacious-one room was a living room w/ couches and a desk and a mini bar area and then there was a bedroom separated by a sliding door and a very large bathroom with a tub and a separate shower. We got an early night that night to prepare for an early day (supper was hermolis on the plane and some food we brought along from Chabad of Chaing Mai).

Living Room-Grand Hyatt Singapore


Bedroom


 Bright and early the next day we got a taxi (taxis are hard to come by-when flagging on the street or at a hotel stand-so if you have somewhere important to be make sure you tell them in advance-we almost could not get a cab to the airport if not for a $40 SGD tip!!) to go to the Singapore zoo. My wife and I like zoos-but this one is fantastic. The entire zoo is set up in a way that you feel like you are walking through the rainforest/jungle. Also you can get really close to a lot of the animals as there are minimal fences (where they can of course) and a lot of the animals run freely throughout the zoo. Monkeys swing freely in the trees above your head-it’s really a cool experience-not the typical. One important thing about Singapore-you NEED mosquito spray!!!!!!! Especially in places like the zoo which is near the water/jungle area-not just because of the discomfort but also because they can carry malaria.

Singapore zoo -you feel like you are in a rainforest/jungle


Monkeys swinging freely above us


We stayed here until early afternoon and then caught a cab back to town to eat at the Kosher Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf. (We usually use public transport but the Singapore zoo is nowhere near the public transport, hence the taxi usage here). Now I know there was a lot of uncertainty about the CBTL in Singapore as far as kashrus/cholov yisroel status is concerned so I did my research and spoke with the Rabbi there. Here is the story (I also enclosed a photo of the kashrus cert. below), the CBTL is indeed not cholov yisroel, however they do offer soy options in their drinks (this does not help for the powder unless you are not makpid on cy in powdered milk), EVERYHTHING in the store is kosher (there is only one kitchen and it is completely kosher), there are plenty of parve food options that do not contain ANY milk (like egg sandwiches, noodles with sauce, etc.) and I don’t remember if all their pastries are pareve or a good chunk of them but he told me that on site they are not allowed to make any dairy pastries. (Check into this for yourself though before you go). That being said we got there and ordered lunch. My wife ordered a salmon salad(which ended up coming with smoked salmon-aka “lox” so I ended up with a lox and eggs sandwich), I had an egg sandwich, and we got noodles w/ sauce for the baby. The food came out quickly and was rather tasty.

Kashrus sign at CBTL


Salmon Salad and egg sandwich


Following lunch we headed down to the subway (which has a stop right outside the door of CBTL(which is also 2 doors away from the JCC which houses the shul, restaurant, etc.-more on that later.) and bought single tickets (for the amount of times we took it over the 2 days it was not worth it to get the day passes) for the short trip over to Chinatown.  If you don’t make it over here you are not missing anything-just a small outdoor market with some shops that are not really in the mood for bargaining and TONS of really foul smelling Chinese food stands. Singapore is an insanely clean city and this is probably the dirtiest area there is there ( it seems like they just gave up on it). Now it was back to the subway to get back to the Hyatt. There is a stop for the Hyatt right near it but you do have to walk 5-7 minutes through the station to get to the right exit.

 The Subway system is excellent in Singapore-it gets you everywhere you need to go and is really quick-unless you have a stroller that is. At first we were taking the stroller on the escalators but then we got warned by someone that it’s illegal and strictly enforced and the fine is $500 if you are caught doing it. So, we started having to find elevators in each station which made the whole process take much longer. (BTW, always look for signs around you wherever you are what you might get fined for –for example eating/drinking in the subway trains/stations is also a $500 fine while skateboarding there is $1000 and throwing a cig butt on the floor is $2000-and there are cops everywhere (as one taxi driver told us-Singapore is a “fine” city). If you see a bunch of people smoking in one area in Singapore you know there is a garbage can nearby so they can throw the butt right out (seriously!!!).

 After getting back to the hotel we got our baby ready for bed and prepared to go out for the evening. Here too we decided to hire a babysitter through the hotel-however here they get babysitters from a n outside prof. babysitting company so you pay through the roof ( and because it’s Singapore so you pay through the roof as well), but it was still worth it at this point in the trip not to have to schlepp him around with us at night.  So at around 730PM we headed down to the lobby to meet the babysitter and after talking to her for a few minutes and feeling comfortable we brought her up to the room and left for the evening.

We hopped on the subway and headed over to the JCC to eat at the Awafi restaurant for supper. Always make sure you bring your passports with you to the JCC’s in Asia as security will not let you in w/o them!!! The food was tasty and the service was excellent. For appetizers we ordered the sambousak and spring rolls and for the mains, sizzling beef (which was amazing-reordered again the second night) and a local dish called mee goering which I would pass on next time around.

Sizzling Beef


Mee Goering


After supper we decided we were going to hit up the rooftop bar at the Marina Bay Sands, so once again we took the subway over there and got off at the stop which is right beneath the hotel/casino/mall and headed over to the entrance for the express elevator that takes you up to the skypark. Now a little tip I learned from DDF and from Dans tr was to say that you are going up to the bar to grab a drink and then you can go up for free, otherwise it costs about $30 per person. So, I walked over to the sign for the bar/skypark and was immediately stopped by some real husky fellow with earpieces and what not and I told him we would like to go up to the bar to grab a drink. He proceeded to look me up and down from head to toe(literally) and then shook his head and pointed to a sign behind him that said “after 6 no shorts allowed”-and naturally I was wearing shorts (it was only about 105 degrees that day with 90% humidity). So we decided that instead of spending $30 per person to go up to the skypark we would come back here the next night and decided instead to go over to the Singapore flyer (Giant ferris wheel). We got there and guess what-we had just missed the last round-so we headed back to the Marina Bay Sands and decided to try out the casino for a few min. We get to the security check and they ask me for our passports-But I did not have them (you might be asking-but we were coming from the jcc-good question-I had passed by the JCC which is 2 doors away from the CBTL by lunchtime and got passes that they give you for the duration of your stay so you do not have to bring your passport each time-so by this time they were back in my hotel safe)-you cant go in, he tells me-by now I was really getting frustrated with everyone turning us away (coming from Thailand where rules are basically a thing of the past……..), but no was no. So, we turned around and went back to the subway back to our hotel and crashed for a semi early night. Tomorrow would be an even earlier day than today-firstly because there was a lot to do and secondly because it was our last day in Asia and we wanted to get it all in…….

NEXT UP-SINGAPORE DAY 2/TRIP HOME

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2014, 06:13:08 PM »
It's sad that this TR is gonna end :-(

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2014, 06:46:24 PM »
It's sad that this TR is gonna end :-(

Yup, my friends spent a year in Singapore and loved it there.

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2014, 04:32:59 AM »
It's sad that this TR is gonna end :-(
I guess that is how we felt too at this point in our trip!! :(

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2014, 11:16:13 PM »
Amazing trip report!!! Am keeping all your tips in mind for my upcoming trip.

You said that getting to the terminal is pretty quick with Bangkok airlines--- flying domestically ( Bkk - Chiang rai, Chiang mail - phuket, phuket - koh samui and then finally koh samui - Bangkok) how much time should we allow to safely make the flights?
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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #66 on: October 31, 2014, 07:24:13 AM »
Amazing trip report!!! Am keeping all your tips in mind for my upcoming trip.

You said that getting to the terminal is pretty quick with Bangkok airlines--- flying domestically ( Bkk - Chiang rai, Chiang mail - phuket, phuket - koh samui and then finally koh samui - Bangkok) how much time should we allow to safely make the flights?
Thank you!!
In Phuket we were at the gate from the time of check in in about 30 min.-the hotel said to get there about 1 hr and 15 min before the flight (but in an hour you should really be fine) and in chiang mai they told us about 1 hr 30 min and it took about 45 min total. I hope you enjoy your trip-have a great time!!

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2014, 03:14:55 PM »
Alright, here goes the last installment to finish up this tr.....

SINGAPORE-DAY 2

I pulled out this tr and dusted off the cobwebs after not having touched it in so long-but I could not let this go unfinished-so here is the final leg. Tuesday morning was an early one as we had a full day ahead of us planned. We were out of the hotel by about 10:00 am (that’s early with a 2 year old having a tantrum, pouring his breakfast out on the carpet and himself and having to be changed :P …..) and headed over to the subway station right near the hotel. We bought tickets for the subway from the station near the Hyatt to the stop for Sentosa Island. Now, Sentosa Island is basically a huge island right off the coast of Singapore and the entire island is divided up into different sections which are themed-it is basically a GIANT theme park-it is so big that it even has a full scale universal studios in one of the sections!! Each section has a different color scheme and all the workers in that section dress accordingly. We got off the subway and walked through a big indoor mall following signs to the cable car that takes you over to the island.

 When you get off at that subway stop there are a few options to get over to the island-so we chose the cable car for the way there and the tram/monorail for the way back (which is free on the way back btw). The cable car ride was fun-we got our own private cabin so we could fit our stroller comfortably without blocking anyone else’s view. The views are really fantastic-but after the glass bottom cable car in HKG this was really child’s play.

View from the cable car over Sentosa Island


The cable car ends at the section called Imbiah lookout-there is not a lot of activities to do in this area (especially not with a 2 year old) so we chose to do the sky tower ride-but that was a bust because it did not offer any better or different views than the cable car we had just done. All the attractions there are REALLY expensive so that was a waste…At this point we decided to break for lunch-which was sandwiches that we brought with from Awafi (they packaged it up really nicely-picked up the night before). We sat down by a café to eat and just as we did the sky darkened and a serious deluge began-the café was covered so that was ok and just as quickly as it started the sky cleared up again and the sun was back out nice and strong (the rain does NOTHING to help cool down the scorching temperatures). 

After the rain stopped we headed over to the bus stop to take us to the next section. Sentosa offers a free bus shuttle service to take you from section to section. After a few minutes of waiting the bus came and promptly drove us over to Siloso point. Here there were a few things that I found might be interesting. There was a fort that is very well preserved with a large collection of WWII memorabilia there. We got in line to buy tickets for the fort and noticed the following sign on the window.

After waiting about 20 minutes though we were getting restless and I went around searching for someone who could help me. I found a worker wandering around and she informed us that the fort was closed early for the day as there was an event there that evening!!  So much so for the accurate sign (it’s still Asia….)!

We then decided to head over to the aquarium which also had a dolphin/sea lion show which the lady at the booth told us was amazing (this was at the heat of the day so the a/c for the indoor aquarium part came as a nice respite from the heat). We got our tickets at the entrance to the aquarium (for most attractions there is an individual booth where you pay access to that specific exhibit) and were promptly inside enjoying the blasting a/c. The aquarium was nothing to write home about-a oversized fish tank, a couple of small pools with various fish/sea creatures, and a “underwater” tunnel with a moving walkway to go through it.

"Underwater" walkway


After about 45 minutes we went out to go watch the dolphin show-DON’T waste your money here!! If you have been to sea world this is a total joke-if you have not, then go to sea world and don’t bother coming here!!. They play some rock music and the dolphins/sea lions do some lame tricks-even seaquarium in Miami was better than this!! You catch my drift…

Pathetic dolphin/sea lion show




Anyway after that we walked from Siloso point down to the beaches and walked along the boardwalk until we came to the skyline luge.

Some funny signs we found along the boardwalk on the beach
           
         

Our kid was just tall enough to ride along with me on the luge. So we paid for the ride up to the top with the chairlift (which fits up to 4 people at a time) and for one ride down on the luge. There was no wait to go up on the chairlift and we were off in no time (we held on to our kid for dear life as there is a silly little bar in front of you and other than that it is completely opened). At the top we picked up helmets for all of us and waited in line for about 15 min. until we got on to the luge. The ride down was really a lot of fun and very worth the money-if we had more time we would have done it again ( especially because our kid loved every second of it).

The chairlift that takes you up


View from the chairlift


Going down on the luge


After we came down we took the monorail straight from there back to the subway station and the subway back into the city back to the hotel. I know that the review of Sentosa does not sound amazing-it really was a fun day and we had a blast. If we did not have a kid with us there is sooo much more you can day-you can probably spend 2-3 days there!

 After getting back to the hotel and putting our kid to bed (and changing out of my shorts!!!) we got ready to go out for the evening. The same babysitter as the night before came knocking promptly at 7:30pm and we were off! We took the subway to the JCC for supper. Awafi was fantastic once again-we ordered some appetizers and for the mains we had the sizzling beef-again (which was fantastic) and one of the local Singaporean dishes which again was not great (I guess we have not acquired taste buds for the local flavors yet).

Sizzling beef (yum!)


We finished supper and took the subway over to the stop which is under the Marina Bay Sands hotel/casino. Before making our way to the elevators to the bar we detoured outside to the waterfront promenade to watch the nightly water/lights/music show. The show lasted about 15 minutes and was quite lame-but then again it’s on the list of things to do.

Water Show


Outside view of the Marina Bay Sands


When the show finished we headed inside to the express elevator to the rooftop bar. Once again the bouncer was standing at the entrance to the elevator and looked us up and down-luckily, though, I was armed with my pants instead of my shorts this time-and with only the slightest nod of his head (as if the president was waiting at the top of that elevator ;D) he allowed us into the elevator. We got out on the top floor (53) and were treated to a fantastic view of Singapore.  We hung out up there for about an hour and got some drinks from the bar which were really good. We took the elevator back down and walked around the mall underneath the hotel complex and then took the subway back to our hotel, let the babysitter go, and crashed for the night.

View from the rooftop bar


 The next, and final morning was a bright and early one!! We were up a 6am so we could make our 9:30am flight from Singapore to Hong Kong with Cathay pacific where we would be connecting onto El Al from Hong Kong back to Tel Aviv. I posted earlier that in Singapore Taxis are hard to come by at certain times of day-so make sure to order from the hotel the day before-especially if you are going to the airport!! We came downstairs with our luggage and asked the guy in charge of the taxi queue to get us a cab to the airport-he asked us if we had a res. Code from the hotel and when I said we did not he told me the wait would be about 45 minutes for a taxi. Well, a $20 bill did the trick and 2 minutes later we were in a cab on the way to the airport.

Now, as I also mentioned earlier, cab drivers in Singapore LOVE to talk-usually they are very entertaining and a pleasure to speak to-not at 630 am though!! This guy chewed our ear off the whole way!!!!!!! He did tell us a couple interesting things though, for example that every cab in Singapore has a tiny camera mounted on the windshield facing the rear of the car and is monitored by a govt. agency that ensures taxi safety. If you leave anything in the car the driver cannot steal it because he will be caught on camera-the driver cannot cheat on the price as he will be caught on camera-and they can also hear where the person requests to go when getting into the cab and watch on a gps transmitter to see if he goes out of the way to take the passenger to where they requested to go!!!! (If only they did something like this in Israel-it would save a lot of heartache!!!)

Anyway, we arrived in the airport and checked in for our flight and checked our bags all the way through to Tel Aviv. We got an empty seat for our kid in Business on Cathay from Singapore to Hong Kong which was very convenient. The seats on this flight were even a bit less than angle lie flat and were not very comfortable but the entertainment service was fantastic! The service was great but the meal was not-except that they served haggen dazs cups for dessert.

Cathay business


We got into Hong Kong uneventfully and headed to the “King David” lounge, which is a generic lounge where El Al leases some space there-nothing special… We finally boarded the El Al flight at 430 pm. After a slight delay we were up in the air. For the way home we gave our kid some children’s Tylenol to help him sleep (and us of course!!) instead of Benadryl and about an hour after takeoff he was ready for bed! Now be it that we were in biz there was plenty of room on the floor by our feet to put him to sleep, so we set him up really comfortably on the floor with blankets, pillows, his teddy bear, etc... and requested dinner to be served to us. The stewardess came with a table cloth to put down on our trays and immediately noticed the baby sleeping comfortably on the floor. She told us she would have to ask the inflight manager if that was ok. In the meantime, she served us our dinner and for the time being we were relaxed and enjoying. Before dessert, though, the manager himself comes over and tells us that according to “FAA” regulations it was illegal for the baby to be on the floor because if the oxygen masks had to come out they would not reach the baby on the floor. I assured him that if G-D forbid such a thing should occur I would IMMEDIATLEY pick up the baby. He told me that if any of the passengers noticed it and decided to report it then El Al could lose its license and never be able to fly again. (maybe I should have left him on the floor and done everyone a favor ;D) We tried a few more things but he was really adamantly stubborn. He asked us to please hurry and finish our dessert and then we needed to pick him up. And there went the rest of our flight out the window :'(. To say the least we took our time finishing our dessert until he came back and basically grabbed our food trays away from us and folded down the tray tables by force!! We laid our seat back and took turns laying him on our stomach trying to keep him sleeping comfortably but it was really not the best and he kept waking up every few minutes >:(. After 12 hours we landed and were on our way home in no time eagerly awaiting our next adventure!!

Thanks for reading this –I hope this helps out anyone looking to go out to these places. Feel free to post any questions here and I will be happy to answer!! While this trip may be amazing without a kid-it is not just doable with one-it was incredible with our kid!! Enjoy your travels and so long till next time!!!

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2014, 03:32:00 PM »
The food picture is so small.. :)

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2014, 03:37:36 PM »
The food picture is so small.. :)
Must be the serving size  :)

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2014, 03:40:03 PM »
The food picture is so small.. :)
I didn't want to ruin your keyboard by you drooling all over it.... ;D

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2014, 09:22:44 PM »
Nice TR, enjoyable read. Thanks!

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2014, 04:53:06 PM »
Nice TR, enjoyable read. Thanks!
Thanks-likewise on yours as well-Down under is definitely next on the list....

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2015, 03:02:27 PM »
Thanks

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2015, 09:04:23 AM »
Thanks
My pleasure!! It's nice to see that people are still enjoying this tr so long after I finished writing it..... It makes it worth the time and effort that went into it!

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2015, 03:12:45 PM »
Nice trip report morgs almost as good as hearing it in person like I have on previous trips

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2015, 05:11:33 PM »
Nice trip report morgs almost as good as hearing it in person like I have on previous trips
but here you get the added benefit of all the great pics! ;D

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2015, 05:29:31 PM »
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We (myself, my wife, and 2 yr old) have returned not too long ago from a 2 week trip to Asia including Hong Kong, Thailand, and Singapore.

How many points total excluding hotel stays. Looking into Thailand.

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2015, 06:12:45 PM »
How many points total excluding hotel stays. Looking into Thailand.
We traveled from TLV:
30,000 AA per person in buisness on EL AL from TLV-HKG(no longer possible to do that direct on ELAL :-[)
17,500 UNITED per person in business on THAI from HKG-Phuket
17,500 UNITED per person in business on THAI from Chaing Mai-Singapore
30,000 AA per person in business on Cathay/El AL from SIN-TLV (through HKG)

120,000 AA Total
70,000 UNITED Total

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Re: TR (w/ pics):2 weeks in Asia with a 2 yr old
« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2015, 06:44:44 PM »
Amazing TR! Thanks for taking the time to put it together!