PSA - Stay Away From The Card Signup Farms Who Offer $5000 In One Month

[theblakdavid]

It bothers me to no end that this is a true statement.

I am proud to say that this is not the way it is in my business.

It's true in a sense. But the main issue that people are having is they are hiding the risks from their customers. What actually ended up happening to any number of people isn't proof of the risks. You are giving them your personal information to spend under your name, while you are fully liable for it. Whether you get the amount they promise or not is sort of a side issue. That can be justified to some extent as acceptable business practise, inflating the numbers and making the advertised profit contingent on factors that you don't reveal fully. The main issue is that they are targeting and exploiting the vulnerable and naive, in a society that is so hard pressed for cash that 5k could mean the difference between declaring bankruptcy or not. They prey on the naive without informing them of the real risks involved, which is much more than just not getting the promised amount. Even if 5 thousand people didn't lose any money, or even if they gained, that doesn't mitigate the risks in any way. Nor does it justify the exploitation of the vulnerable.

[yakov116]

He shouldn't have attempted to deal with FR by himself. I wouldn't call this a prime example of people they screwed over.

That is not a valid statment

[theblakdavid]

That is not a valid statment

+1

[David Smith]

How should he know that, or even know what an FR is? All he knows is that the CC company called him with questions, which he tried (and failed) to answer.

That is not a valid statment

They should've warned him not to get involved in it, and to call them first.

[yochiek93]

They should've warned him not to get involved in it, and to forward the calls to them.

But they didn't

[yakov116]

But they didn't

Any will not...

[Aaaron]

I would love an AMA with any of these guys.

What percentage get FRd?
What percentage get the full amount promised?
What percentage have clawback issues?
What percentage are sent bills by AmEx?

[Yehuda25]

All of us are doing those "shady stuff" as you call it

-10000 you idiot, can you read? If if someone here is doing shady stuff AT LEAST HE'S NOT DOING IT FOR OTHERS

[churnbabychurn]

*Can we remove Lakewood from the thread title?*

[Yehuda25]

It's true in a sense. But the main issue that people are having is they are hiding the risks from their customers. What actually ended up happening to any number of people isn't proof of the risks. You are giving them your personal information to spend under your name, while you are fully liable for it. Whether you get the amount they promise or not is sort of a side issue. That can be justified to some extent as acceptable business practise, inflating the numbers and making the advertised profit contingent on factors that you don't reveal fully. The main issue is that they are targeting and exploiting the vulnerable and naive, in a society that is so hard pressed for cash that 5k could mean the difference between declaring bankruptcy or not. They prey on the naive without informing them of the real risks involved, which is much more than just not getting the promised amount. Even if 5 thousand people didn't lose any money, or even if they gained, that doesn't mitigate the risks in any way. Nor does it justify the exploitation of the vulnerable.

Well said.

[theblakdavid]

-10000 you idiot, can you read? If if someone here is doing shady stuff AT LEAST HE'S NOT DOING IT FOR OTHERS

Couldn't agree more. If someone wants to steal, cheat, or lie, that's his choice. But to get others to, and not only that, but make them monetarily liable, is a whole different thing. And if someone does that, and deliberately misleads them about the risks and liability, is entrapment, and exploitation. Whether there are people that were charged for their miles after refunded tickets wiggled out of it, is wholly irrelevant.

*Can we remove Lakewood from the thread title?*

+1

[JTZ]

*Can we remove Lakewood from the thread title?*

No.

[yakov116]

No.

But a mod can...

[David Smith]

No.

I was gonna change it to Chicago...

[yakov116]

I was gonna change it to Chicago...

[Dan]

*Can we remove Lakewood from the thread title?*

Are the farms not based in Lakewood? I heard they are and apparently OP did as well?

[mendy from lakewood]

Dan the biggest favor you can possibly do for the community is to spread an awareness of these companies!

[Dan]

Dan the biggest favor you can possibly do for the community is to spread an awareness of these companies!

If I get a few people to email me I'd be happy to report their stories.
So far I've gotten 0 emails.
Are people embarrassed they they got FRed or stiffed?

[yakov116]

If I get a few people to email me I'd be happy to report their stories.
So far I've gotten 0 emails.
Are people embarrassed they they got FRed or stiffed?

No I think that those that got busted don't know of this thread

[yakov116]

Are the farms not based in Lakewood? I heard they are and apparently OP did as well?

Not all are

The OP was talking when most were